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Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Gene,
I agree that LORD in all caps is YHVH and never only a human ruler. I disagree that LORD written in all caps is how the translators indicate the Hebrew word adonai. I also disagree that adon is ONLY for human rulers and I will show you one of several proofs of that:
Isaiah 10:33
Young’s Literal Translation
Lo, the Lord, Jehovah of Hosts,…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years ago
Berean, good post. That should help Adam (if he really wants help) to see that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah.
I don’t think he wants to see it though, sadly.
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Gene,
The Hebrew word adonai is not found in Psalm110:1.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Hi Berean,
You said:
Hi LU
AMEN
“YHWH TO MY LORD” IS RIGHT
Thanks Berean, I’m glad that you can see that.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Proclaimer,
This is my paraphrase for more clarity:
A PSALM OF DAVID. A declaration of YHWH to my Lord, YHWH our Righteousness,: “Sit at My right hand, Until I make Your enemies Your footstool.”
Jeremiah 23
5Behold, the days come, says Yahweh, that I will raise to David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and sha…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Proclaimer,
You said:
When you put God and Lord in the same sentence, you usually assume that God is greater.
Agreed. The Father is greater than the Son because the Father as in a father/son relationship naturally has authority over his son. However the father and son would be equal in the type of being that they are.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Proclaimer,
You said: So if the prime minister said something to a minister, you would assume that the minister was not the prime minister or he would be referring to himself.
If there were two words “minister” in the sentence and one was emphatic, yes. However, in Psalm 110:1 there is only one word translatable as “Lord” from the original Hebrew.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Gene,
The word “LORD” in all caps is how the translators specify the name “YHVH,” not adonai in the OT. The word adonai Strongs #136 is not in Psalms 110 at all. Why you don’t know that by now is puzzling. Would you like help to learn how to read a free online interlinear which shows you the original Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic words with the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Proclaimer,
This is the interlinear for Psalms 110:1, it does NOT say “Adon” in it. It calls the Son “Adoni,” to be read right to left:
From here: https://biblehub.com/interlinear/psalms/110-1.htmPlease see Strong’s 113 for “Lord” and see that it does not merely mean human ruler but can also apply to a divine ruler even YHVH. Gene seems to be…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Proclaimer
The Father identifies the Son as YHVH who laid the foundation of the earth. Enough said.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Mike,
Regarding your comment:
I’m interested to see what you’re able to find. Let us know as soon as you have something.
It is not poetry. The term is “collective singular.”
A collective noun is a name for a group of people or things such as “family,” “class,” “pack,” “bouquet,” “pair,” and “flock.” Collective nouns usually take a singular ver…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Mike,
Regarding your question:
So the TWO of them together are our ONE Creator? Is our ONE Creator both your Father AND your brother? Will you state for the record that you consider yourself to be both the daughter AND the sister of our ONE Creator?
You seemed to have missed this one…
Based on the actual words that the Apostles of Jesus pra…
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 5 years ago
You seem to not be able to grasp the idea that one identity can give his name to another identity resulting in two identities with one name.
YHVH the Father has given His name to His son who is the YHVH that laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of His hands. Heb 1:10
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Proclaimer,
Israel is a he/him also.
Exodus 4:22“Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD, “Israel is My son, My firstborn. 23“So I said to you, ‘Let My son go that he may serve Me’; but you have refused to let him go. Behold, I will kill your son, your firstborn.”’”
YHVH is a He/Him. That does not mean YHVH is only one person. Israe…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Jodi Discussion in the forum Debates 5 years ago
Hi Jodi,
I understand being busy. I presently have had a billion things to research and select for a home that is being built “dia” me, lol.
Regarding “dia,” would you be interested to know that there is a specific grammatical form of the word that goes with the word “dia” in the sentence that does not allow for the translation “by reason of, on…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Mike,
YHVH is our ONE creator and YHVH is God and Lord, Father and Son.
Regarding heaven, yes heaven is above both parts of the world all at the same time.
Any other easy questions that I can help you with?
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 5 years ago
Is Jesus “Adam” and also the son of “Adam” in this verse?
1 Cor 15:45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being;” the last Adam a life-giving spirit.
Can’t the Father and the Son both have the same proper name and the same nature or can they just have the same nature?
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
How about this then, Proclaimer:
YHVH is the particular name of a theos who is the First and the Last, the King of Israel, the Maker of Heaven and Earth, the Redeemer, the Good Shepherd, the Lord of lords, the Savior, the Giver of everlasting life, and the Forgiver of sins.
Jesus is the particular name of a theos who is the First and the Last,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years ago
Hi Adam,
Regarding this passage:
2 Chron 7:14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, pray, seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
You said:
The remedy for sin as you mentioned is taken from Hebrew Bible only not my creation.
Seeking the…
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years ago
Proclaimer said:
Clue. He is the image of the invisible God. He is the Word. He speaks on behalf of God. He represents God. The Messenger of God.
You have probably heard the saying that goes something like this:
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, acts like a duck, has the name “duck,” is it not a duck?
If the Son of God looks like the…[Read more]
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