Pierre,It amazes me that you say that I say the son was His first creation. Come on…the Son was not created.These little comments you make about my understanding are very telling of your comprehension. It is no wonder you are not understanding.

Irene,Did you know that the church is referred to in singular terms also yet there are many members. Look at this:To the Church in LaodiceaRev 3:14“To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. 15I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wis…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 29 2011,15:36)Hi Kathi:I just re-read what you stated in the above post.  You say that Jehovah is the name for the unity of two persons.  I still do not see a scripture for this, but this statement “the name for the unity of two persons” is different that your previous statement which was “Jehovah is two persons”.The name “…[Read more]

Pierre,No one is inventing anything if they find another with the same understanding.

Quote (princess @ July 29 2011,16:22)LU Why would I ask the person who doesn't know themselves, not very logical is it. I re read my post and I don't see me asking T for an explanation, just confirmation. No offense LU, back peddling post are not really ones I like to read. However, for T or another to request such is a different matter.But you…[Read more]

Pierre,I can not answer according to your wording because it may be misleading. If it were worded right, I would answer you. I would substitute the word 'God' for 'Father' and 'Christ' for 'Son' for starters and then check your spelling and punctuation. Also, give a third choice to yes or no…put the third choice as 'other and please…[Read more]

Here is a common fallacy:Jesus is not diety, He is a created angel.1 Cor 6:3aDo you not know that we will judge angels?How is it that all judgement is in the hands of the Son if He is a mere created angel that the saints in glory will judge? John 5:22″For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son,The Son may be…[Read more]

Another anti-Jesus is God fallacy that came up today.I have heard this statement that goes something like this:Jesus can't be God because God will not share His glory with another:”I am the LORD, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, Nor My praise to graven images.If they assume that the LORD (Jehovah) is just the Father, then we…[Read more]

Oh, thanks for explaining and for the high rating. Kathi

Why ask T. to explain what someone else means? He cannot help you get your answers to what you want to get straight, Princess. If you want to know what I mean, then you ought to ask me, wouldn't that be obvious. Or should I ask T. why you don't just ask me what I mean?Kathi

Marty,You don't even accept that the Son pre-existed so I don't expect you to 'get it' that Jehovah is the name for the unity of two persons.Love to you,Kathi

Irene,You are taking it all wrong.you said:Quote You said that those who have poor education, hardly carry he spirit of truthThis is what I said:Men or women having poor education and communication skills hardly proves that they carry the spirit of truth.Someone seemed to be trying to make a case that scriptures teach that unlearned men spoke from…[Read more]

No Irene, that was not the question. I asked where does it say that we are one with the Father.Jehovah God is two persons. Deut 10:17 and 1 Cor 8:6 tells you who Jehovah God is…both the Father and the Son. The Son says that He and the Father are one. That is TWO persons that are ONE Irene and we can be in THEM, not just in HIM.Think about…[Read more]

Wow Roo,You purposely took a hit for the kingdom of God, I'm impressed although I didn't read your thread. You have me curious God bless, Kathi

Irene,I never said that people without education cannot have the ability to know truth. Good grief! No need to be offended.I was explaining that lacking education does not make one automatically know truth or visa versa.It is the Spirit that leads us into all truth, not education. However, there are very educated people that have the Spirit…[Read more]

Irene,It says that we can be one in THEM, not just the Father. Now ask yourself why, Irene. It is because they are a unity. How is it that believer's can be in THEM, Irene? Are we going to become more members within their unity and also be Jehovah God or simply be the saints/ the adopted sons in the kingdom of Jehovah God and be in them…[Read more]

Pierre,I am fully aware of that verse. The one saying “I am the LORD; that is my name” is Jehovah our God who is both the Father and the Son. Jehovah is the name of their unity. Both the Father and the Son will not give up their glory to anyone, the glory that they have with one another.Jesus tells us that they shared a common glory and will…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 29 2011,01:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,22:19)Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2011,22:48)BTW, that Hebrew word for Lord, the first Lord in 'Lord of lords,' is Adonay.  The word used ONLY for our deity Lord.You are mistaken, Kathi.  Ask Jack.  He quoted Barnes or someone who made the same claim you did, and I showed him TW…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 28 2011,17:36)Quote (Lightenup @ July 20 2011,15:08)Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2011,18:02)Quote (Lightenup @ July 20 2011,16:40)Pierre,Wrong verse…keep looking in John 17.KathiKathiyou mean that this one is not true ?PierrePierre,This response of yours really makes me question your comprehension skills.I never said the verse…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 20 2011,23:30)Quote (terraricca @ July 20 2011,16:55)Kathijust remember we are all gods PierrePsalm 82:6“I said, ‘You are “gods”;   you are all sons of the Most High.’Gill's Exposition of the Entire BibleI have said, ye are gods,…. In the law, Exodus 21:6 or they were so by his appointment and commission; he constitute…[Read more]