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Lightenup replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago
Mike,Quote Kathi, what are your thoughts about the “sons of God” mentioned in Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7, and Gen 6:4? Do YOU think they are angels?Well, I believe they were heavenly created beings who do not call God their 'Father.' Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago
Mike,You ought to read what you wrote in this quote:Quote And Kathi likes to ignore the fact that if there were more than one “God kind” of spirit being, then we would have more than one God.I don't think Keith is willing to be as brave as you, Kathi. You are okay with openly declaring your worship of TWO different Gods. In one sentence you say I…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2011,11:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2011,09:36)No comments from the peanut gallery
How about a cashew?“Tell them this: ‘These gods, who did not make the heavens and the earth, will perish from the earth and from under the heavens.’”Jehovah is speaking of the wooden, brass, and golden idols of the other nat…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 9 months ago
Keith, Do you find that many here that tear down the compound unity of God write as if this compound unity is made up of only one person. It is like they can't hear 'three persons in one' or 'two persons' in one unity. Don't they see that one person is speaking either to the other person or about the whole unity, depending on context. Maybe…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Can English address many believed misconceptions? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 9 months ago
In other words Mike, the other gods are not gods who have been exalted by the true God but by themselves or others. The gods that have exalted themselves or been exalted as gods by others will perish…they did not make heaven or earth.Jer 10: 11Thus you shall say to them, “The gods that did not make the heavens and the earth will perish from t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Can English address many believed misconceptions? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 9 months ago
Mike,Those that might be called gods are those who have wrongly exalted themselves to make themselves equal to God or those objects that people have wrongly exalted and made these objects into objects of worship, like carved wooden images, handmade molten images, entertainment, sports, family, other people, etc.; whatever one has placed in their…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is God Almighty One? Two? Or Three? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 9 months ago
Pierre,The two are equal in deity nature and one is subject to the other…so? Compound unities often have one that the others are subject to. The family unity has the father that is the head of the family…they still are a compound unity. Jehovah God can be one compound unity and have more than one deity member where one member is the head of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago
Keith,Mike seems to like to ignore that there are different kinds of spirit beings…there is the God kind and there is the angelic kind. If we clarify the spirit beings as the God spirit being kind and the angelic spirit being kind then he would have a more difficult time pushing his ideas, imo.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 9 months ago
Mike,Jack, Keith and I believe in the compound unity of more than one person, with each person being deity.Satan is not a God spirit being. He is an angel spirit being that made himself a god, not by nature but by arrogance. If anyone calls satan a god it would only be that he has wrongfully exalted himself making himself out to be like the m…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 9 months ago
Pierre,What was your source?Also, the Son was begotten, not created.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 9 months ago
Irene,You have made an assumption that Jehovah is the name of our Heavenly Father alone. Jehovah as a compound unity would be everything that the Father and Son are. If the Father is the most High, then so is the unity for it includes the Father. If the Son is the Lord of lords, so is the compound unity for it includes the Son.Where does the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 13 2011,11:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2011,10:36)No comments from the peanut gallery
Kathi Jer 10:11 is obvious proof their is “Only One True God” and all other so-called gods of men will be destroyed! But then Mike will say you are taking it to litteral!
Also if Jesus is one of those gods that didn't make the…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 9 months ago
Pierre,Who wrote that commentary, what is your source? I'll bet the writer believes in the unity of the Father and the Son and writes through that perspective. His point is that Jehovah is both God and Lord and there really aren't any other divine gods or lords that Jehovah rules over. All other gods or lords are not divine at all and were not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 9 months ago
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Lightenup replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2011,09:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2011,20:36)Mike,Does Luke 4:8 speak about worshiping 'Jehovah your God' or the Lord (adonai) your God? What was written that is being referred to, Jehovah or adonai?There is only one Lord for us, is what Paul tells us.KathiWell, actually both Kathi.Jesus is recorded as saying…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2011,14:36)Here is a smoking gun to end the idea of Jesus being 'a god' and not 'a God.' I think we all agree that Jesus will exist for eternity, right? Well, if He were just 'a god' then He would not.Jer 10:1 Hear the word which the LORD speaks to you, O house of Israel.2Thus says the LORD, “Do not learn t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 9 months ago
Irene,Jehovah made all things alone. The Son was with God in the beginning and through the Son all things were made. That is two persons, Irene. One God and one Lord 1 Cor 8:6Two persons made all things…and they were alone before they made all things. They are Jehovah.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 9 months ago
Pierre,You put the scripture in your post and do not even understand the significance.Dt 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes. 1Give thanks to the LORD, for He is good, For His lovingkindness is everlasting.2Give thanks to the God of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 12 2011,16:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2011,05:31)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 12 2011,01:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2011,13:45)Irene,Quote But in the Old Testament it is LORD for Jehovah God.The Hebrew word for Jehovah is not being translated as Lord of lords or even LORD OF LORDS.Many times in the OT, Jehovah is translated as…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Deity of Jesus Christ-Scriptural Database in the forum Group Discussions 14 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2011,19:33)Quote (Lightenup @ June 12 2011,15:26)Here will be a place to post a scripture or passage or scriptural reasoning why you believe in the deity of Jesus Christ. Please only post here if you truly believe in the deity of Christ.Thanks ya'll!Bump for those who need to be reminded as to what is to be posted…[Read more]
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