@lightenup
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 14 2011,21:57)Kathi,You are skirting the issue. Will any of your brothers or sisters at church stand beside you and boldly proclaim that they worship TWO completely separate Gods?When you say separate Gods, you give the wrong impression. God the Father and God the Son are not God to us separately but interdependently.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Quote So post Gen 18, and show me how it's impossible to have only ONE Jehovah because of this scripture. I'll show you it is not.We have been over and over Gen 18. All you can say is the vice regent argument…I have heard it many times…I disagree. Do you have anything besides that?Quote Also, Jesus isn't an angel, servant, Lamb, Son,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Everyone I go to church with appears to openly worship the Father as God and the Son as God and they believe they are two distinct persons. As I understand it, trinitarians believe in the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are a compound unity as one God, yet each person is 100% God by nature.
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,I have been saying that all along since I started focusing on Deut 10:17. I'm glad you are catching up though

Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,As I understand it, every trinitarian thinks that each of the three 'persons' is 100% God and form one unity as God. They also believe in a compound unity. The early church father's did too. It is just symantics. They will say that each are equally God in nature yet they are not three Gods but one God.Gen 18 and 19 does not clarify any…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Ok Mike,Done!
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,20:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 12 2011,13:54)Jehovah the Father was talking to Jehovah our Righteousness (the Son).Kathi,Are you positive that Psalm 110 is not just a matter of our ONE God Jehovah offering His Son, Servant, Lamb, Angel, Word, and Prophet the most esteemed position at the right hand of the Most High…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 12 2011,23:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 13 2011,06:54)Jehovah in the fullest sense is the unity of the Father and Son and their SpiritThat is false Kathi.Jehovah (YHWH) is the only God and in the New Testament, this God not only has a son, but is the true God and Father of us all, even of Jesus Christ.You are not speaking truth on…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,20:26)"Jehovah in the fullest sense"?
Okay. But you need to change your signature then. What you say there conflicts with what you say now.
Why is that conflicting with my signature. How should I word my signature to better express this?KathiLightenup replied to the topic Is God Almighty One? Two? Or Three? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2011,12:58)Yes Kathi,Just like “elohim” is plural. It is commonly referred to as a “plural of majesty”. The Hebrews didn't have a capital letter to distinguish between, say, “Lord” and “lord”. The way they did it was to pluralize a word that we today would simply capitalize. Instead of “God”, they would say “go…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,18:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 12 2011,14:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2011,14:41)Kathi's version: Then you will know that I am THE GREAT “I AM”……………………and I do nothing of my own authority.Kathi, by WHOSE authority does the Great “I AM” operate?
The Father's authority as always.So the “Great I A…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,18:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 11 2011,22:08)Mike, It appears by your last comment that you did not read this. Jehovah and I AM of Exodus 3:14 are different Hebrew words. I read it. I just don't know what you're trying to tell me with it. Isn't it your contention that the Name God gave to Moses equals the words “…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
And what does the name 'Jesus' mean…Jehovah our Righteousness.
Lightenup replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2011,14:41)Kathi's version: Then you will know that I am THE GREAT “I AM”……………………and I do nothing of my own authority.Kathi, by WHOSE authority does the Great “I AM” operate?
The Father's authority as always.Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Happyman,Jehovah is the God of gods and the Lord of lords. For us we have one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ.Jehovah in the fullest sense is the unity of the Father and Son and their SpiritEach member of this unity is also called Jehovah, one as the Father and one as the Son(Jehovah our Righteousness).Context will help.Do you believe…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Keith's Thread in the forum About Believers Place 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 07 2011,11:54)Mike,The root is the pre-existent Son, the 'sprout' is the human Son, together they are the incarnation of the begotten God and flesh man.Jehovah in the fullest sense is the unity of the Father and Son and their SpiritEach member of this unity is also called Jehovah, one as the Father and one as the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The temptation of Jesus Christ in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago
none.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 11 2011,15:22)Mike,you said:Quote It is your assertion that when Jesus utters the most common pronoun-verb combination in any language, he is secretly telling us he is Jehovah God, right? You are taking the “I AM” to mean “Jehovah”, right? Let's spell it out your way:John 8:24That is why I told you that you will die in y…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The temptation of Jesus Christ in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,I am not a polytheist. You just don't understand how God can be a compound unity of more than one person who are both God by original eternal nature, one as the Father and the other as the Son with their eternal Spirit.No need to comment Mike. I know you don't get it. Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Irene,Thank you for your apology. Do you really want me to dig up the other insults that you have thrown at me that were uncalled for? I can if you want to go through them.Kathi
- Load More

