Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,21:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,19:23)Mike,You need to distinguish ego eimi in the sentences with a direct object and those sentences where ego eimi does not have a direct object.Please note, the same translators that you brag on in John 14:9 translated ego eimi as I AM.  Remember that you don't know the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,21:39)I tell you what, Kathi.  Let's drop the John 8:58 “I AM” thing for a while so you can focus on showing me the OTHER places in John where Jesus claimed to be God or equal to him.Remember, only the direct quotes of Jesus are allowed, for we are trying to find out what HE taught about himself.I have listed 23…[Read more]

Mike,It was easy with Neb and Arti, I looked them up and 'king' was written in the singular. As far as Gen 39:2, I have gotten distracted from it (you know why) and also, I don't feel qualified to make a judgement. One source says that Moses knew nothing of the majestic plural, also, adonai is not the plural of adown, and adonai and adown are…[Read more]

Charles and Mike,I hope you don't mind some input here.Charles you said:Quote Not only that, but all humans will acquire His glorious body, and become sons and daughters of God, therefore Gods.John 10: 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,04:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,06:50)Paladin,Quote You are correct, in that spirit is genitive. I've got to stop posting when I get tired.The nominative neuter singular  relative pronoun “o” replaces spirit which is genitive neuter singular, not sword which is accusative feminine singular.It does not throw off…[Read more]

Mike and Happyman,Mike said:Quote They understand it until they are completely and systematically brainwashed by the leaders of their churches that teach the totally nonsensical notion that the Son OF God can BE the God he is the Son OF.The children are taught that the Son of God has the same nature as the God He is the Son of. They are never…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,18:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,23:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,19:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 18 2011,22:35)Quote Who did Jesus claim to be?I AMActually, he claimed to be the SON OF “I AM”.Ok Mike,Show us what verse tells you this, ya know, where He said that He was the Son of I AM.Do you doubt that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,18:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,23:53)Irene,You missed the point.  In the OT, Jehovah says that no one was with Him when He created, and then in the NT it clearly says that the Word WAS WITH GOD and that all was created through that Word that was WITH God.  So, how can Jehovah be alone without anyone with H…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,18:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,23:45)Mike,The 'I AM' could not have been 'I have existed' because it is written in the present tense, not the past tense.Just like in 14:9 Kathi?  Where virtually EVERY translator renders it as “I have been” so it actually makes sense in English?Mike,You need to distinguish…[Read more]

Happyman,Who are you referring to as saying that Jesus is a person who goes around talking to himself and using his voice to come down from heaven. That is not the trinity that teaches that.Kathi

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 16 2011,11:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 15 2011,19:30)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 14 2011,21:37)Joshua of Jericho had the Hebrew version of 'Jesus' but he was a type of the Jesus who actually was the Messiah.AND…………..?!?!?Kathi, find another way to prove Jesus is God, okay?  “Jesus” was a VERY COMMON name in the time of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,19:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 18 2011,22:35)Quote Who did Jesus claim to be?I AMActually, he claimed to be the SON OF “I AM”.Ok Mike,Show us what verse tells you this, ya know, where He said that He was the Son of I AM.

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 19 2011,19:53)Kathi!  Just reading back what you said to me, to look atIsa 44:24 ¶ Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I the LORD that maketh all ; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; And John 1:1 well it was God Himself that created all, j…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,20:24)Quote (Is 1:18 @ Sep. 19 2011,01:42)I agree with you, many times Yeshua applied the “I AM” title to Himself and the significance was not lost on his listeners (e.g. John 8:59).John 8:24 NIVI told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,19:58)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,14:00)So barley,I was wondering…could you say this:”Before my grandfather was born, I AM?”didn't think so.  I don't think any of us existed before our grandfathers, Kathi.  So we couldn't imply that before them, we had existed.Jesus DID exist before Abraham, so could t…[Read more]

Mike,This should help:Imperfect TenseThe imperfect tense shows continuous or linear type of action just like the present tense. It always indicates an action continually or repeatedly happening in past time. It portrays the action as going on for some extended period of time in the past.The idea of continual action in the past does not apply when…[Read more]

Shimmer,I follow the words on the overhead. God knows the heart…they have shown us many different names that apply to them.

barley,Let me know when you want to have a respectful conversation, until then I am going to choose to pass…sorry. I have no time for this type of behavior.

Quote (barley @ Sep. 19 2011,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 13 2011,10:59)And what does the name 'Jesus' mean…Jehovah our Righteousness.And God would not name his only begotten son by his own name?Did you give your children a different last name than your own?May be you gave them the last name “lizard”?or the name of your first boyfriend? To…[Read more]

Clearly barley,You have no grasp on the active voice of the Greek words. Learn about it and then learn how you actually have to be existing before you can say 'I am' in the active voice.Also, Abraham lives…Let scripture speak:26“But regarding the fact that the dead rise again, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the passage about the b…[Read more]