Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 25 2011,10:45)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 24 2011,22:39)Well, as I have told you before, and more than once…Jehovah can be the name of the unity of two persons who are both a God,Then that is really the bottom line of your doctrine, and all I needed to know.  You believe that Jehovah is the unity of TWO completely separate…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Concerning the compound unity: Israel is a nation. It is not a PERSON. The church is a conglomeration of multiple people, not a PERSON. I consider God to be a PERSON, not a “government” made up of many. To you, is “God” a PERSON, or a conglomeration? Again,God can be what the unity is called, or either person is called. The word…[Read more]

Mike,Quote So…………….to you, is Jehovah your Great God? Or is Jehovah your Gods – as in more than one God?Well, as I have told you before, and more than once…Jehovah can be the name of the unity of two persons who are both a God, or Jehovah can refer to one or the other person within the unity.The Father has the name Jehovah.The Son has…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Concerning the plural of majesty: It is a fact that Dagon, Milcom (Molech) and Asteroth were SINGULAR gods who were called by the plural “elohim”. So that one fact alone will cancel any thought of Jehovah being a plural God – at least based on the use of the word “elohim”.Now, rememeber that “elohim” can either refer to more than one…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Also, don't let the gendered words take over your understanding of scripture, Kathi. In Romans 4:22, the Greek word “righteousness” is a female word, but that doesn't mean that everyone who is righteous is female. In Mark 3:10, the word “diseases” is female, but that doesn't mean a disease has a sexual persuasion. The Hebrew word…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 24 2011,10:11)Kathi, you said:Quote You can see by the context that 'husband' is intended and not 'ruler.'Abraham, who was the “husband” of Sarah, was the “lord” of Sarah.  A husband WAS the lord of his wife, and Sarah called Abraham “my lord”.  (Gen 18:12, 1 Peter 3:6)And we all know that “lord” means “master/ruler”.You s…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2011,09:51)Excellent post Kathi!  KeithThank you Keith, nice to see that you are still alive!Blessings,Kathi

Mike,Quote Either the word in Gen 39:2 is the plural of adon, indicating a plural of majesty.I would say that this would be the correct choice, but again, I am not educated in the Hebrew language but I am willing to learn and grow in this. That is why I spent big $$ for a Hebrew morphological study with the grammar labels and Hebrew/English…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 23 2011,15:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2011,22:46)Mike,John 6:57Just as the living Father sent me (aorist tense) and I live (present tense) because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live (future tense) because of me.Jesus is talking about His present life…His present life as the man.  The present man that…[Read more]

Quote (thehappyman @ Sep. 23 2011,13:05)Hi Kathie:            You said; ' This life that Jesus speaks of was the life of the flesh.  The Son was certainly alive before He was incarnated and that life was without beginning.'              Do you mean that you believe in reincarnation ? ,                         or from spirit to flesh then fles…[Read more]

Thanks guys but I did know that theos doesn't always mean God. Of course all other 'theos' were not begotten that way…as theos, just the only Begotten God, and all others mentioned as 'theos/elohim' didn't have divine nature like HE was born with aside from His Father. And also, all other 'theos' mentioned, aside from the Father, did not…[Read more]

So, t8, the elohim/theos that men are called in Psalms did not have divine nature, yet they were called elohim/theos and meant because they were in authority. So can you show me any scripture that says that believers will be called theos in the future, after partaking of divine nature? Can you show me any scripture where Jesus or His apostles…[Read more]

bump for t8

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 23 2011,16:17)Kathi,Plural of majesty?Mike,I think it is possible that the writer made a word plural for emphasis or greatness, and they also pluralized a word to express more than one. I think that the verses about kings can mean to include princes also as I have pointed out previously. I still need to learn a ton more…[Read more]

Mike,Believing in many gods is polytheism.  Believing in and acknowledging the fact that other people 'believe in' other gods is two different things.  So, you 'acknowledge' that there are many gods, you only 'believe in' God the Father, god the Son, and god the satan.  Which still describes you as a polytheist…even if you only believe in God th…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote And I find it both appalling and ridiculous that the one member on HN who proudly admits her WORSHIP of TWO completely separate Gods Most High would drag me down into her polytheistic mire.The two and their Spirit are ONE..one in unity. Do you see how you only mentioned part of what I admit and leave off the 'are ONE' part.…[Read more]

Quote Don't go 'way – I'm working on something pertaining to this…

Mike,John 6:57Just as the living Father sent me (aorist tense) and I live (present tense) because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live (future tense) because of me.Jesus is talking about His present life…His present life as the man. The present man that He is, is alive because of the Father. The live that people get is eternal…[Read more]

polytheism: The worship of or belief in more than one god. You believe in one that is God AND one that is a god, Jesus, and one that is a god, satan.

Mike,The Trinitarians make their three Gods into only One…what? In your opinion…one what? One Godhead or one person?What say you?