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Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
David,We cannot read our way into salvation. It is by faith that we are saved through the revealed word of God. Many can read that Jesus is the only begotten God, for example, but not everyone that reads it accepts what they read. It is the Spirit that brings the word of God alive to those seeking Him with their whole heart.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
David,Yes, I said it to the many members here that have not had the revelation, not that those who wrote it did not have the revelation.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
David,Only to those who do not have it revealed by the Spirit yet. Thomas had it revealed as well as many others.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Nick,You could call Him the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, if you need to be 'to the letter.' When spiritually appraised, that sums up quite nicely as God, the Son.based on this verse: John 1:18No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Nick,You wouldn't know God the Son because you deny Him, even after shown many scriptures that call the Son 'God' you still deny Him. There is a reason that the Catholics believe in Jesus as God the Son. You should get to know why. Start with scripture, those I posted for you.He who has eyes to see…
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Nick,God the Son became man. If you miss that, you miss the gospel.Matt 10:33″But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Nick,So one of the two that are our God is just your neighbor? Unity is a spiritually appraised term and worldly wisdom has to be put aside to perceive the unity of God in your heart. We are to believe God's word over man's understanding.Here is a compilation of the several passages and/or scriptural reasonings that suggest that Jesus Christ is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 10 2012,04:10)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 10 2012,20:49)Pierre,How could it mean that the fullness of the Father was in Him when the Father was in heaven?Kathiwhat is the fullness of some thing ,???is this mean that it is the TOTAL OF THAT THING ??OR A FULL REPRESENTATION OF THAT THING
Pierre,John 1:1c doesn't say “and the…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,22:22)Hi Lu, You never changeJames 1:5-85But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him. 6But he must ask in faith without any doubting, for the one who doubts is like the surf of the sea, driven and tossed by the wind. 7For that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Ahh Nick,You are using worldly wisdom here.Actually Jesus always had that nature in its fullest from eternity. That is what makes Him a Son and also God with His Father.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Pierre,How could it mean that the fullness of the Father was in Him when the Father was in heaven?
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 09 2012,02:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 10 2012,00:56)Pierre,Maybe you are just unaware.Col 2:9:New International Version (©1984)For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,New Living Translation (©2007)For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body.English Standard Version (©2001)For in hi…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
No Nick, if it were worldly wisdom, I wouldn't have been asked by you about the several gods.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Nick,It depends on which side of the equation you are looking at. Many things are one of something on the left side of the equals sign yet there are more than one thing on the right side. For example:1 family = 1 father + 1 mother + 1 or more childrenSee how that is 1 = 1+1+1or…1 deck of cards = 13 clubs + 13 hearts + 13 diamonds + 13 spades1 =…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Pierre,Maybe you are just unaware.Col 2:9:New International Version (©1984)For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,New Living Translation (©2007)For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body.English Standard Version (©2001)For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,New American Standard Bible (©…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Pierre,What is Godhead?
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Nick,Both contain the fullness of the Godhead.
Lightenup replied to the topic Deity of Jesus Christ/extra-Biblical quotes in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 3 months ago
More from Gregory to those who think that the Son was created:If, then, man, who is himself a created being, thinks that the Spirit and the Only-begotten God20492049 and the Only-begotten God. One Cod. reads here υἱ& 231·ν (not θεόν), as it is in S. John i. 18, though even there “many very ancient authorities” (R.V.) read θεὸν. The Latin of Her…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Deity of Jesus Christ/extra-Biblical quotes in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 3 months ago
More from Gregory of Nyssa regarding the eternal sonship and deity of the Son:Since, then, the Godhead is very life, and the Only-begotten God is God, and life, and truth, and every conceivable thing that is lofty and Divine, while the creation draws from Him its supply of good, it may hence be evident that if it is in life by partaking of life,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Nick,Having the fullness of the Godhead would be to have the full makeup of God.
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