Nick,Jesus never needed to be reborn, He was never separated from God. Sin separates us from God…He had no sin.

Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 21 2012,23:25)Kathi,The scripture does tell us that the Son laid the foundation of the earth and that the heavens are the works of His hands, so yes, the scriptures do tell us that the Son was there in the beginning.Where does it say the SON did this?God BlessMarlinHi Marlin,Heb 1:8 But of the Son He says, “YOUR T…[Read more]

Nick,All was from the Father AND the Son.

No, Nick I am not adding opinion…it is written. The Son laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of His hands. He actively did that way back at the time of creation. Heb 1:2 n these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 21 2012,18:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2012,16:00)So Nick,Do you think that we give back our life and it is no longer ours after we die?Lightenup.Rev.11:11.And after three days and a half THE SPIRIT IF LIFE FROM GOD ENTERED IN TO THEM,and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.THE SPIRIT OF…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,12:46)Hi LU, Jesus ascribed goodness to the Father.No man is born righteous or can make himself good.Even the first step, repentance, is a gift from God.Nick,Jesus by His very inherent God nature has always been righteous and He has never ceased to be righteous.If He were just a man, his righteous could not redeem…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 21 2012,09:05)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 20 2012,15:06)Marty,But it is Jesus' goodness/righteousness that saves us and that was what the young man was asking about…what can he do to obtain eternal life. Jesus tells him that there is one good and to follow him if he wishes to be complete. So, I think that the NASB translation…[Read more]

Hi Marlin,Thanks for all the time that took. you said:Quote If you believe that Jesus was a spiritual being before He came to the earth, then you worship a little god.Why would you say that? You are a son, does that make you less human than your father?I believe God the Father begat the Son (who was always within Him before being begotten) who is…[Read more]

But Nick you have not faced the fact that the Son, not as the Messiah, but as the Son before flesh, was with the Father in the beginning and it was the Son that laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the work of His hands.

Quote (cavedave @ Feb. 21 2012,00:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2012,15:12)Cavedave,I was reading the above post of yours and was agreeing with you until you said that Jesus came in the natural and then the spiritual. I was wondering if you believe in the pre-existence of Jesus before His birth in Mary. Do you?KathiJesus was a man born of a woman…[Read more]

Nick,The passage refers to the Son of God and that is my point…the word is the Son of God. The passage tells us that it was the Son who laid out the earth and heavens in the beginning.

Mike,You could say that He was the firstborn of the creation of God and in that way He is the beginning of the creation of God. That would show you that there was a begettal and not a creative act. Adam wasn't considered a firstborn because he was a creative act.Kathi

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,23:48)Hi LU, Is the word BEING there anywhere?Nick,This passage clearly shows the person of the Son in the beginning:Heb 1:8But of the Son He says,         “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER,         AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.9“YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS…[Read more]

So Nick,Do you think that we give back our life and it is no longer ours after we die?

Marlin,I didn't ask you if Jesus is the 2nd person of the trinity or if He is a little god. I just asked you if He pre-existed (His birth in Mary).You said that God spoke and the WORD came into being. Was the Word the begotten God who was with the begetter God in your understanding?Kathi

Nick,John 1:1c tells us that the Word was God, and God is spirit, not flesh, and God is a being so the Word is a spirit being. Those are all scriptural terms.

Nick,Do you think that a soul can die or must it be destroyed by God?

Marlin,So you do not believe in the pre-existence of Jesus, right? I just want to make sure I am understanding you.Thanks,Kathi

Cavedave,I was reading the above post of yours and was agreeing with you until you said that Jesus came in the natural and then the spiritual. I was wondering if you believe in the pre-existence of Jesus before His birth in Mary. Do you?Kathi

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 18 2012,19:01)Hi Kathi:You asked:Who is the husband?Jesus is the husband of the church, watching over God's Word to perform it.Love in Christ,MartyHi Marty,Thanks, now let me ask you this…is the Father the husband of the church too?Kathi