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Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 24 2012,02:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 24 2012,07:55)Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 23 2012,00:36)Quote Hi Marlin,Heb 1:8 But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.9“YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 23 2012,22:38)Quote You are welcome! However, this passage indicates there are two great Gods, one speaking about the other and referring to the other as LORD (YHVH).Kathi, Don't you see, These speak of the very same God creating all things. The very same Spirit.MarlinMarlin,The NT speaks of two:1 Cor 8:yet for us there is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic You cannot have 200% of anything! in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 23 2012,22:30)Kathi said,Quote I'm not sure why you assume that two persons who are each God by nature can't be considered a unity as God to us. Maybe worldly wisdom prohibits this but two perfect eternal beings, one from within the other as a son, must be in perfect, harmonious unity, or one or both would cease from being…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 22 2012,16:52)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 22 2012,08:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2012,15:07)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 18 2012,19:01)Hi Kathi:You asked:Who is the husband?Jesus is the husband of the church, watching over God's Word to perform it.Love in Christ,MartyHi Marty,Thanks, now let me ask you this…is the Father the husband…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 23 2012,14:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 22 2012,22:16)Nick,Do you have some scriptures that say God did not need the Son?Hi KathiOf course he doesn't, because the Father “DID” need the Son to come in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin condemn sin in the flesh.Jesus said “Without him we can do nothing” which is a…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 23 2012,00:36)Quote Hi Marlin,Heb 1:8 But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.9“YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 2 months ago
When looking at this passage in Heb 1:5For to which of the angels did He ever say, “YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU”? And again, “I WILL BE A FATHER TO HIM AND HE SHALL BE A SON TO ME”?I see two separate situations. I believe God said, “Today I have begotten you” before creation…and then, I beli…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 2 months ago
God never said at His baptism that He was begotten on that day Nick.
Lightenup replied to the topic You cannot have 200% of anything! in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 23 2012,15:02)Quote I believe that the Son of God has been eternally existent, first within the Father and then begotten from the Father before the ages. That is what I feel the Lord showed me and that changed my life. I have yet to be shown that the Holy Spirit is a separate person but I am willing to be corrected. I, like…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic You cannot have 200% of anything! in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 23 2012,01:04)Quote Marlin,Jesus is not the Father. Jesus goes to great lengths to demonstrate that the Father is someone other than Himself. The Holy Spirit is not the Christ, the Son of God is the Christ.Matt 16:Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”Hi Kathi,You say that Jesus is not the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Nick,Do you have some scriptures that say God did not need the Son?
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (cavedave @ Feb. 22 2012,17:37)It may be a good idea to not take one scripture and try to make a picture out of it that it is not really painting.In the above taking these scriptures to say Jesus created all things in the sweet by and by at first looks like it may be a good idea to support the way we have been told it must have been. When in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 2 months ago
Well Mike,You won't find that in scripture.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Nick,For starters:John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.John 5:23 He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.There are so many…The Father created THROUGH the SonThe Father saves THROUGH the SonThe Father judges THROUGH the SonThe Father's…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 2 months ago
Right Nick.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 22 2012,11:38)Hi, Our God is immortal. But Jesus died.Nick,And that is why He had to become flesh because the flesh could die.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Hi Nick,Interdependance.
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (942767 @ Feb. 22 2012,08:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2012,15:07)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 18 2012,19:01)Hi Kathi:You asked:Who is the husband?Jesus is the husband of the church, watching over God's Word to perform it.Love in Christ,MartyHi Marty,Thanks, now let me ask you this…is the Father the husband of the church too?KathiHi Kathi:Jesus…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,23:18)Hi LU, ” the Son can do nothing on my own initiative”jn 5.30'and I do nothing on my own initiative' jn8.28'the flesh profits nothing' jn 6.63Nick,The Son expresses the unity of Him and the Father everywhere, you take it as inability but it is meant to convey unity.Your flesh profits nothing but His flesh was…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic You cannot have 200% of anything! in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 14 years, 2 months ago
Marlin,Jesus is not the Father. Jesus goes to great lengths to demonstrate that the Father is someone other than Himself. The Holy Spirit is not the Christ, the Son of God is the Christ.Matt 16:Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”God bless,Kathi
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