Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2012,18:43)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2012,23:04)Mike,you said:Quote I don't believe your letter was written in the first century, and I definitely KNOW it was not written by Simon, the one Jesus named Cephas.  If you definitely know these things, where is your proof?I eliminate it as a fraud the same way those who…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2012,10:16)BTW,I have to be more clear with you there is a difference between a Unity and a Number count. If there is ONE God it does not mean there is one group or type it means. How many? Count 1 stop. To say me and my father is one is a statement of Unity to say that my Father is the ONLY True God is a statement of…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2012,10:10)Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2012,16:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2012,18:47)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2012,11:41)BD,If you see that LORD=Jehovah/YHVH and if you see that YHVH=the God of gods and the Lord of lordsand if you see that for us there is one God (Father) and one Lord (Son)and if you see that the…[Read more]

BD,you asked:Quote Mark 13:32But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.Jesus does not know again here but God does know and God does choose whatever he wants.So tell me how could this co-Unity work as you explain it when according to you God cam choose and “God” cannot…[Read more]

Hi BD, you have asked me a lot of good questions. Here goes: Quote Who put them in the son's hand?So you agree that The Father has the greater Authority OVER the son, which means you agree that THE FATHER is a HIGHER Authority so High in fact that Jesus saysMatthew 20:23And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2012,18:47)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2012,11:41)BD,If you see that LORD=Jehovah/YHVH and if you see that YHVH=the God of gods and the Lord of lordsand if you see that for us there is one God (Father) and one Lord (Son)and if you see that the Father and Son are one…it all comes together.Really?  You're STILL going to…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote I don't believe your letter was written in the first century, and I definitely KNOW it was not written by Simon, the one Jesus named Cephas. If you definitely know these things, where is your proof?

BD,Within the unity there are two persons, one is greater in authority than the other, so? I have never said anything different. I have never said that they have equal authority…one is the Father and has greater authority over the Son. This is typically the case within a Father/Son relationship. Still they are a unity. A unity can have members…[Read more]

BD,If you see that LORD=Jehovah/YHVH and if you see that YHVH=the God of gods and the Lord of lordsand if you see that for us there is one God (Father) and one Lord (Son)and if you see that the Father and Son are one…it all comes together.Hear O Israel: The God of gods and Lord of lords (YHVH), our God (a plural word, btw) is one God of gods and…[Read more]

Hi BD,you ask:Quote When God says there is NO OTHER but ME how do you read that, do you see ME as plural even though God explicitly states there is NONE other?Good question. I see “ME” in this context as a unity and unities often have singular pronouns to refer to them. For example, the church is written of as a “SHE” and I see that as a unity…[Read more]

That is a nice national anthem, t8. For the record, this is the last stanza in our national anthem for America, although we rarely hear the whole song and we probably don't realize that it is there:Oh, thus be it ever, when freemen shall standBetween their loved home and the war's desolation!Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n-rescued…[Read more]

Ok, Mike,Then you were made aware that a 1st century document indicates that Jesus was the creator and not the created. Even back then, that was taught, and by the apostle Peter who you agree has a position of authority in the body of Christ. Therefore, it wasn't something that the people of the third century came up with obviously since it was…[Read more]

BD,Why, when I speak about “two persons being united as one supreme authority called God” you respond as if I said one person relating to himself as God alone? I don't think you are understanding my position. Maybe I am not writing clearly. Each person in the unity as one supreme authority, often called “God” in some contexts can also be called…[Read more]

Mike,Do you recall me showing you this historical syriac writing?Quote From the ancient Syriac documents:The Teaching of Simon Cephas in the City of Rome (who we know as 'Peter' the disciple):In the third(4) year of Claudius Caesar, Simon Cephas departed from Antioch to go to Rome. And as he passed on he preached in the divers countries the word…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2012,14:15)Mike,Have I shown you historical writings where apostles in the first century claim that Jesus was the creator?Mike,So is that a yes? I have shown you historical writings where apostles in the first century claim that Jesus was the creator?

Mike,Have I shown you historical writings where apostles in the first century claim that Jesus was the creator?

BD,Quote Hebrews 5:8Although Jesus was the Son of God, he learned to be obedient through his sufferings.Now, I will ask you does God Almighty need to learn to be obedient?If God Almighty willingly took on the nature which caused Him to feel hunger, exhaustion, uncomfortably hot or cold, then I believe that He would only be able to say that He…[Read more]

Hi Mike,you said:Quote I don't disagree with your analogy (except for them both creating us – for we have a Creator, not Creators). Would you agree that MANY scholars, and early church fathers, including Eusebius, believe that Jesus was the creator of all things in heaven and on earth based on what the Bible says?

Mike,If anyone was disgruntled on the plane, they must have somehow missed the fact that the head pilot sent the co-pilot out to the passengar cabin to put his life on the line in between the psycho hijacker and the passengers and masterfully overcame him in order to save them from the plane crashing into the trade center. I believe that if she…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 22 2012,15:40)Quote (Lightenup @ June 20 2012,11:24)Mike,I have never disagreed that the Father has authority over the Son. You have authority over your son, do you not? Does that make you unequal? You are both equally human even though there is a difference in position. The Father and Son are both equally god natured…[Read more]