Quote (bodhitharta @ July 17 2012,10:55)Quote (Lightenup @ July 17 2012,16:57)BD,You said:Quote I never s that Jesus wasn't worshipped by some nor do the scriptures say the disciples worshipped Jesus so where did you get that from? Jesus told his disciples who to Worship and it wasn't him he told to Worship. I'm not sure what the first part of…[Read more]

While I wait for your response to that last post, I will begin to address your questions.There are two sides to a coin, agreed? When the coin is laying on the table, you see only one side. What it seems to me is that what you are doing is insisting that there is only one side to the coin while I am insisting that there are two. I am trying to show…[Read more]

Well, if we do that then either one of us may come up with a whole line of more questions after a 'lull' in the conversation. I think that having another thread for comments to our discussion would be better. It would make it a lot easier for us to quote each other's thoughts, for me anyway.

This is great t8, I welcome the opportunity but I think that it would be easier to stick to us answering each other's questions if it were a closed discussion. Would you mind limiting it to a discussion just between the two of us? It would be much easier for us to keep a flow going in the discussion. There can be another thread for a discussion…[Read more]

BD,You said:Quote I never s that Jesus wasn't worshipped by some nor do the scriptures say the disciples worshipped Jesus so where did you get that from? Jesus told his disciples who to Worship and it wasn't him he told to Worship. I'm not sure what the first part of your statement meant but look at the part that I bolded. Then read this:Matt…[Read more]

Mike,Thank you for admitting:YES Kathi. The translations you posted describe people worshipping Jesus. So, we don't have to read this from you again:Quote No where in scripture is Jesus ever worshiped.

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 16 2012,22:48)It's getting to the point that I believe that if Jesus came to you and told you himself “Kathi, I am not god” you will either say you're not really Jesus or you will say “you are god, from my point of view”…lolAccording to scriptures, He is the only begotten God and was with God in the beginning. We are…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 16 2012,22:45)Quote (Lightenup @ July 17 2012,14:38)Quote (bodhitharta @ July 16 2012,16:58)Quote (t8 @ July 16 2012,13:45)I have removed my post as I am not part of this discussion.Apologies to all.I didn't know this discussion was closed to others, I never agreed to that. WE never as one agreed to that I guess you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 16 2012,19:16)Quote (Lightenup @ July 15 2012,22:01)This is the same guy that has said previously that he worships Jesus as the Son of God. Yet he is 'amazed' when someone worships Jesus as the Son of God. Does that sound like a confused person, a bit hypocritical maybe?Slow your roll there, Sunshine.  1.  I'm sure t8 p…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 16 2012,16:58)Quote (t8 @ July 16 2012,13:45)I have removed my post as I am not part of this discussion.Apologies to all.I didn't know this discussion was closed to others, I never agreed to that. WE never as one agreed to that I guess you thought you were the unity spokeperson?So does God have 2 wills or one?I got news…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 16 2012,08:06)Quote (Lightenup @ July 16 2012,13:26)Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2012,17:16)Quote (Lightenup @ July 12 2012,09:16)Pierre,So, the God of gods has more authority than the Lord of lords…Jehovah is still both of them.You may have given your child everything and you are in authority over your child…that is why you…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 16 2012,02:49)Quote (Lightenup @ July 16 2012,16:26)Hi Wakeup,Jesus died on the cross according to His flesh, not according to His divinity, as I understand it. Also, the one who pre-existed flesh as a heavenly being, even  the only begotten God, humbled Himself and took on a different form. He became a human baby while still…[Read more]

It is interesting that t8 knows that this is a closed discussion but has not respected that. Also, that he belittles my beliefs but rarely challenges me directly and when he does and I respond with a solid answer, he is not to be heard from again in the conversation. hmmm…This is the same guy that has said previously that he worships Jesus as…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 12 2012,22:48)To all readers:Mike said this:Quote No where in scripture is Jesus ever worshiped.I have shown this to Mike before, see for yourself if no where in scripture is Jesus ever worshiped:Matt 2:1-2 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 14 2012,11:51)Quote (Lightenup @ July 12 2012,20:53)Mike,Regarding:1 Timothy 613 In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you 14 to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2012,23:43)Quote (Lightenup @ July 14 2012,15:27)BD,you said:Quote Really, you don't seem to be able to tell the difference between a giver and a receiver.Do you think that the Father does not receive anything from the Son? Do you not think that two in a unity cannot give and the other receive? The fact that one gives…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2012,17:16)Quote (Lightenup @ July 12 2012,09:16)Pierre,So, the God of gods has more authority than the Lord of lords…Jehovah is still both of them.You may have given your child everything and you are in authority over your child…that is why you are the father and they are not. Still you and your child are part of a…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 13 2012,23:23)BD.I worship Jesus as the Son, not as the Father. I worship the Father as the Father and not the Son.Why do you think that Jesus always received worship but his disciples and the angels didn't?Why do you think that Jesus was worshiped by His disciples?BD,Did you not read what I wrote. I do not worship the Son…[Read more]

BD,you said:Quote Really, you don't seem to be able to tell the difference between a giver and a receiver.Do you think that the Father does not receive anything from the Son? Do you not think that two in a unity cannot give and the other receive? The fact that one gives certain things to the other does not in anyway discount that there is a unity…[Read more]

BD.I worship Jesus as the Son, not as the Father. I worship the Father as the Father and not the Son.Why do you think that Jesus always received worship but his disciples and the angels didn't?Why do you think that Jesus was worshiped by His disciples?