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Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 1 month ago
Mike,
Regarding this post:
LU: Jesus is the only begotten God, the Lord of lords…
Is the Father also the Lord of lords?LU: was sent from the Yahweh Unity to serve this Unity as He emptied Himself and became man, the promised Messiah.
So the unity of Jesus and the Father sent Jesus as Jesus’ and the Father’s anointed one? Jesus sent himse…Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 1 month ago
Mike,
You said:
And also Satan, “the god of this world”. (2 Cor 4:4)
In your list of ‘gods’ which one had all authority on earth and in heaven when that verse was written? In other words, what singular ‘god’ with the article ‘the’ has all authority during the age spoken about?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 1 month ago
Hi Adam,
Regarding the Targums, do you realize that the Memra of God is the was the Aramaic say “Word of God”?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 1 month ago
Here this is on topic:
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 1 month ago
For us there is one God the Father and one Lord, Jesus the Christ who is the only begotten God in the bosom of the Father.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
When I read the name Yahweh, I understand it as the God of gods and the Lord of lords to help see the unity of the Father and the Son who act as one. Since I believe that the Father accomplishes his vision through the Son, then they are both involved in the act albeit in different ways, and rightfully both be credited for the act like…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 2 months ago
Proclaimer,
You said:
After all, being the Son means that he was born of the Father and from that, you can easily derive what nature he would have. Further, it wouldn’t be controversial at all.
Seriously, not controversial at all. Just ask those active on HN if they agree that being the Son means that he was born of the Father.
Mike says the S…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 2 months ago
Mike,
Regarding this post:
LU: Then the Father (the God no one has seen of John 1:18) said to the Son (the only begotten God of John 1:18), “Let Us make man in Our image (the only begotten God who is the image of the God no one has seen, Col 1:15)…
How do you know? Why couldn’t it have been the Son saying, “Let us make man in our image”?A…
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 2 months ago
Hi Adam,
Have I asked you if you have read the Jewish Targums? Do you know about them?
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 2 months ago
Mike,
You said:
You are free to have your beliefs about Jesus being the very God he is the servant of – but at least be fair about it. Don’t go out of your way to purposely mistranslate scriptures to force your belief into the Bible.
Compare your bias of what I say to what I actually say:
I will correct your post to say this, look at the diffe…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 2 months ago
Mike,
In answer to your question, no, physically I don’t cover my head when I pray but I am not opposed to that. Spiritually, I do pray under the covering of who is my head, Jesus.
Regarding Jerusalem as being called Yahweh our Righteousness:
A great person often has a city named after them and obviously they are not the city. The city of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 2 months ago
Mike,
Good conversation, Mike.
You said:
So it’s really simple. Jesus is the son, servant, mediator, prophet, holy one, anointed one, and sacrificial lamb of God. If “God” is “The Yahweh Unity”, then Jesus is the son, servant, mediator, prophet, holy one, anointed one, and sacrificial lamb of “The Yahweh Unity”.
Actually that and much more tha…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 2 months ago
Mike,
You said:
Maybe you could answer the question more specifically. Who specifically was the speaker saying the words, and who specifically was the speaker saying those words to?
1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we e…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 2 months ago
Proclaimer,
Please answer this:
You said:
If you say ‘Jesus is God’. Then in Greek, you are saying that ‘Jesus is the God’ in Greek and that is wrong.
And what if you say Jesus is the only begotten God who was with God the Father in the beginning and through the only begotten God, all things were made.
Is that a correct statement according to you?
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 2 months ago
Mike,
You said:
Jesus is never definitively called Yahweh in scripture.
Wrong. The Branch is Jesus who is called Yahweh our righteousness. In Hebrews 1, the Father identifies the Son as Yahweh who laid the foundation of the earth…
But it is impossible for Jesus to have any of the titles I listed while also being God.
Correction, it is impo…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 2 months ago
YHVH
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 2 months ago
The only begotten Son of God is another way of saying the only begotten God. John 1 uses both for the same person.
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 2 months ago
Mike,
You said:
Just because another person may also be a Lord of other lords, a King of other kings, or a Teacher of other teachers does not equate them with Yahweh – or make them a part of a Unity of Spirit with Yahweh.
True, however Jesus is also the giver of eternal life, the Lord of all creation, has all authority in heaven and on earth, i…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 2 months ago
Adam,
You said:
Here Yahweh is both God and Lord.
This is the reason why I am standing against the concepts of the NT on God and Messiah.
The OT is talking about two persons as one YHVH God who is both God and Lord there in Deut 10:17. The NT supports that when it speaks of one God and one Lord, Father and Son. It further supports that by s…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 2 months ago
Gene,
You said:
The trip is in the actual translation of the Greek word, (dia) , it is used in two places in that sentence, that if misunderstood gives a wrong understanding to the whole sentence.
You are the one misunderstanding the word dia, Gene. You have been corrected on this. Go to the first post in the “Understanding Greek” thread and y…[Read more]
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