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Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2012,12:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2012,12:41)Number 1…don't call me Jammin' JrThen don't post doctored translations like he does.
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2012,12:41)Number 2…Can there be any degree of proof for you that shows ANY translation as legit?Realize that not only is Jesus called YHWH in the Aramaic…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Thanks Mike,Another plug for the unity of God…the Father did not make one thing in heaven and on earth apart from the Son

Lightenup replied to the topic Comics, cartoons, jokes and funny stories in the forum Chatroom 13 years, 9 months ago
A man was sitting on the edge of the bed, observing his wife, looking at herself in the mirror. Since her birthday was not far off he asked what she'd like to have for her Birthday.”I'd like to be six again”, she replied, still looking in the mirror.On the morning of her Birthday, he arose early, made her a nice big bowl of Lucky Charms, and then…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Here, BD, a response to your Peshitta post:This article gives a great deal of evidence for an Aramaic written original NT.This resource is very interesting. It is in a PDF form and I can't copy and paste from it. You can find it by going to this google search link and clicking on the fourth option “Was the New Testament Really Written in Greek.” ht…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
BD,Quote I have nothing but respect for your love of God but it is for that very reason I am discussing this issue with you it is truly out of love, respect and admiration.Thank you for the compliment
I love and respect you as well and that is why I am spending time down here with you. Quote Now with your own explanation above that qualifies…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 9 months ago
This is a pretty good article about the matter:Yeshua as YHWH in the New TestamentThe Divine Name of YHWH is used almost 7,000 times in the Tanakh (Old Testament). So if the New Testament is a continuation of The Divine Revelation to man, we should expect it to appear in the Gospels/letters as well?We know that the original New Testament contained…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike,I think that you are jumping to conclusions by saying that since the Peshitta was dated at 175 AD AT THE LATEST so therefore, since the NT is believed to be completed around 100 AD, it was a translation. That would just be a guess. There is much to study here…nothing concrete in dates. What makes sense to me is that the originals were…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike,I don't know Aramaic or Hebrew or how to read the dictionary that you refer to. I can't even figure out how to search a word there. What I do know is that there are these Bibles that are translated by people who claim that MarYah is the Aramaic word that replaces the name YHWH in the OT and NT. History also tells us that Aramaic became the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike,On that site, LORD (all caps), appears where YHWH would go.
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike,you ask:Quote So, jammin Jr., before you continue posting these doctored translations, you ought to first show proof that they are legit, don't you think?Number 1…don't call me Jammin' Jr. Number 2…Can there be any degree of proof for you that shows ANY translation as legit? What does legit mean in your opinion? What kind of evidence…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
BD and Mike,Of course we are talking theory here because we aren't given specifics in scripture. As I have said, early on in this discussion, your mother had 1/2 of the DNA that has always belonged to you within the particular ovum that became you, in her ovary, right from birth. Many years later, this ovum is implanted with the other 1/2 of your…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 9 months ago
t8, your last question:Quote 2) Are there instances in the New Testament in our translations and the Greek where the word kurios is used of men?Yes.Are there instances in the NT where YHWH is written as 'kurios' or translated from 'kurios' but not translated as Jehovah/YHWH but means Jehovah/YHWH?
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 01 2012,00:02)Here are some simple yes and no questions for you.Included are scriptures that will aid you in your answers.Please just scrape the whole page and put your answer after each question.1 Corinthians 4:6Now these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes; that in us ye might…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 9 months ago
Hi t8,This is an issue with many translations based on the Aramaic manuscripts and the Aramaic word for YHWH in the OT and NT. It is also an issue of which manuscripts were translated into English directly from the original language of the apostles of the NT.Now to your post on page 5 which I will bump in the next post…
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
BD,Your questions with my answers:So let me get this straight you say that Jesus is a Begotten God, correct?Almost…I say that Jesus is THE ONLY Begotten God.But you say he was always begotten, yes or no?No, not always begotten, but begotten before the agesYou say that the Father was never begotten, correct?CorrectSo what does begotten mean if it…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 01 2012,21:02)Quote (Lightenup @ July 25 2012,21:49)As a rule103 the Aramaic Peshitta Tanak (Old Testament) rendersEL/ELOAH/ELOHIM with ALAHA; ADONAI/ADON with MAR and YHWH with MARYA. For Example:Psalm 110:1a Hebrew: YHWH said to my ADON…Psalm 110:1a Aramaic: MARYA said to my MAR…This pattern continues through the Ara…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike,you asked:Quote Now compare that to the ANGEL of God in Exodus:Exodus 23:21Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.WHOSE name is “in him”, Kathi? I don't read, “We have the SAME name” in this verse – do you?Basically, that is the result. Jehovah…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike,you said:Quote Also Kathi, notice what else is said about those who are called by YHWH's name in the verse above. They are those that YHWH CREATED – those He FORMED and MADE.We know that one person didn't form them by Himself, i.e. “Let US make man in our image.”John 1:1-3 1In the origin The Word had been existing and That Word had been…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike,you said:Quote Yet I only know of ONE who is named “YHWH”. You often CLAIM there is another, but I have seen no proof of this claim to date.Allow me to enlighten you then…Lu 2:11 For there is born to you this day a deliverer, who is the Lord Jehovah Messiah, inthe city of DavidJoh 8:11 And she said: No man, Lord Jehovah. And Jesus said:…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 01 2012,01:35)Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2012,17:10)BD,you said:Quote So during the time he hadn't been given “the name” yet, what was his name and what was the Name of the one who gave him the Name.You are saying that YHWH was a being who gave the name YHWH to another being whom we also call Jesus. Doesn't this mean that…[Read more]
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