Oh my goodness, the comics thread is moving south…quick someone do something

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2012,12:59)Mike,Quote Until then, don't bother using the Aramaic Bible in English in your posts to me, because it will prove nothing more than when jammin uses his doctored translations that don't accurately represent what was taught in the original languages.Mike do you accept ANY Bible translation? I can't recall any…[Read more]

BD,Wherever did you get the idea that I think Jesus is the God 'of' the Father? He is from the Father, not over the Father!Also as there is one true God, there is also one true begotten God. Both are united as one supreme authority.

Mike,Younan capitalizes all the letters as 'LORD.' I don't know why you think differently. The others write it the same as each other…'Lord' even when they referred to the Angel of the Lord, it was written the same.From what I can tell, when the word translated is written in the singular emphatic form it refers to YHWH but refers to lords when…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Until then, don't bother using the Aramaic Bible in English in your posts to me, because it will prove nothing more than when jammin uses his doctored translations that don't accurately represent what was taught in the original languages.Mike do you accept ANY Bible translation? I can't recall any that you haven't had trouble with. What…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote (Btw, the fact that some translator caps the word “lord” when in reference to Jehovah and to Jesus isn't “proof” of any sort.)When the word 'lord' is in all caps in this verse, Deut 10:17, do you believe that it is showing that it refers to YHWH by capping all the letters? Is that the way that the NIV translators let you know…[Read more]

Mike,He is using the Peshitta which he says was completed during the apostolic times.The Aramaic in which the Bible called “Assakhta Peshitta” is written, known as the Peshitta Text, is in the dialect of northwest Mesopotamia as it evolved and was highly perfected in Orhai, once a city-kingdom, later called Edessa by the Greeks, and now called…[Read more]

BD,”Targum fragments found in the Dead Sea Scrolls indicate that use of written targumim can be dated to pre-Christian times, and eventually two of these written Targumim, Targum Onqelos on the Pentateuch and Targum Jonathan on the Prophets gained official status, and were specifically designated for use in synagogue services.”The 'Word of God' as…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2012,14:11)Also Kathi Jesus declares that The Father is The Only “true” God wouldn't that mean God of any type? Here is the Problem Jesus claims that the God he worships he worships along with the other Jews:John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.So clearly you can…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2012,13:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2012,15:28)BD,In light of the Father being the only true God, Jesus is the only true Begotten God. There is no conflict there.So, with that understanding, yes, Jesus said that and no, He was not mistaken.Swhen Jesus says that The Father is greater than he is do you understand that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,12:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:15)Oh, ok, then explain how God created the sun to the class, Teacher Mike.I can't explain the “how” of it, Kathi, because we aren't told the “how” of it.But I can explain that since God CREATED the sun, it means God existed BEFORE the sun.  Surely you can accept this fact…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,12:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:15)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Jesus is called a god in most Bibles, Kathi.Actually, He is called God in most Bibles, Mike. I do not see any that say 'a god' apart from the doctored NWT.What you see is that in every Greek ms, John 1:1 speaks of one who is called “THE god”, and one…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,11:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,16:55)I am not stopping my life's activities because you cannot accept it without a mountain of proof.What “mountain of proof”?   So far, you have posted the words from some dude whose name and credentials I don't even know – who says that “marya” equals “the Lord Jehovah”.I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,11:30)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:03)Imagine if you will, that the sun always existed in its complete developed state, the rays would have always existed then also. Get it?Imagine now that it was said the sun existed in the beginning, and at some point before the ages, the sun begot its rays.Would you STILL…[Read more]

BD,Quote We don't need to imagine because the world was Dark in the beginning it didn't always have light and the sun was already created so when God said let there be light there was light, two different states. since you say Jesus was begotten that would mean he was not begotten at some point.I was making an analogy between the eternal Father…[Read more]

BD,In light of the Father being the only true God, Jesus is the only true Begotten God. There is no conflict there.So, with that understanding, yes, Jesus said that and no, He was not mistaken.

BD,It may seem like I am changing when I say that the Father is God and then I see that God is also a general term for the supreme authority. I also see Jesus as God but specifically the only begotten God. So, as I have said, over and over…it depends on the context. For instance, I know that 1 Cor 8:6 credits both the Father and the Son for…[Read more]

Mike,Thanks for the directions The reason you only find part of the NT Interlinear is because that is as far as Paul Younan has gotten in his translating efforts. Here is a quote from him:”Indeed, this project is on-going and will take several years to complete. My purpose in creating an Interlinear version of the Peshitta New Testament is to:…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Jesus is called a god in most Bibles, Kathi.Actually, He is called God in most Bibles, Mike. I do not see any that say 'a god' apart from the doctored NWT.Quote BUT……………. since the scriptures were inspired by God Himself to be written by humans to teach humans, those teachings are written so that humans can understand them.So…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2012,00:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,15:14)BD,Quote I have nothing but respect for your love of God but it is for that very reason I am discussing this issue with you it is truly out of love, respect and admiration.Thank you for the compliment  I love and respect you as well and that is why I am spending time…[Read more]