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    Hi all,I've been wanting to do this for a while now. It seems we are refuting the “Jesus is an angel being” believer's “proof scriptures” so often, that we never get the chance to have them answer to the MANY scriptures that CLEARLY teach that Jesus is NOT an angel being.This thread is NOT for any discussion whatsoever. This thread is ONLY for…[Read more]

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    Hi all,I've been wanting to do this for a while now. It seems we are refuting the “Jesus is an angel being” believer's “proof scriptures” so often, that we never get the chance to have them answer to the MANY scriptures that CLEARLY teach that Jesus is NOT an angel being.This thread is NOT for any discussion whatsoever. This thread is ONLY for…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Lightenup 13 years, 9 months ago

    Hello Happyman,I hope you are doing well!Regarding healing, sometimes God heals the physical infirmity and sometimes He doesn't. I am thinking about Paul who was told that God's strength would be perfected in his weakness. If we have a physical infirmity that God doesn't seem to want to heal, then we have an obvious opportunity to allow God's…[Read more]

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    BD,Jesus could never not be the begotten God. He emptied Himself to take on the form of a bondservant starting out as an infant. It is quite an act of love on His part to do so. He gave up so much in order to become a bondservant and live the life of a poor man, a man who actually as the only begotten God, owned everything and was Lord of…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 12 2012,20:22)I amhttp://aramaicnt.com/Research/The%20Name%20of%20God.pdfI am not sure if you referred the above document to me, but somehow I ended up there. Regardless, it's stance appears to be the same as yours.In this document, his references to “I am” are absolutely wrong. He makes the claim that “I am” is an incomplete…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 13 2012,03:49)It is possible that John used scribes for his writings and that he didn't pen the books himself. But whatever the method, he was writing to a Greek speaking part of the world, so on that point alone it seems that I don't have to mention that you usually write in the language of your intended audience. John wrote to…[Read more]

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    BD,you said:Quote Why would he need to grow in Spirit and why would he need the Grace of God upon him if he himself is also God?So you are saying Jesus a spirit son first right? So he was begotten twice once in th spirit and once in the flesh?He needed to grow in Spirit because He emptied Himself of whatever it was in order to become a baby. All…[Read more]

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    Mike,you said:Quote 1. Yashua is called YahwehThere is no proof of this, nor would sharing a name with God mean you must have existed from eternity. There is no known connection between these things.One would have to always exist to have that name. In the Greek texts there IS reasonable proof that the Son is called YHWH, you admit that there is…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2012,17:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2012,21:11)Do you believe that mitosis is not God's design?Do you believe that it is a manmade concept?All things in nature are by God's design, Kathi.Ok, thank you! Now, Mike, why is an example of nature secular information? Isn't an example in nature appropriate to convey Biblical…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2012,22:31)Kathi, I will repeat: Hebrew hwhy, plus yrml ayrm rmaIn the Jerusalem Targum, the translation of Ex 3:14 most likely kept the Hebrew word “YHWH”, and transliterated it as “EHEYEH”.I have not been able to find an Aramaic word for the divine name of God, and am not sure there even is one.This is also the case…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 13 2012,03:27)LU, Yes there is a Hebrew concept for Word and a Greek one. Tell me about the Aramaic concept for Logos or Word.t8,7th post down on page 8 is about the Aramaic concept for the Word. A Targum is an Aramaic translation or paraphrase of a portion of the Old Testament. In the Targum, the 'Word of God' was a common name.…[Read more]

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    BD,I was asking about information regarding what took place BEFORE the Son was brought forth/begotten BEFORE the ages. Your Luke verse has nothing to do with that question, sorry.Obviously, when the pre-existent Son became flesh as a baby He had to grow and develop.

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    t8,Quote So LU, you are making an argument that the writers of the NT did not write in the language of international communication, and further even though the mainstream consensus is that the New Testament was written in a form of Koine Greek, which was the common language of the Eastern Mediterranean, you disagree. And why do you disagree,…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 13 2012,00:58)Now what about John's books. He was in the territory of Greek-speaking people, i.e., Asia Minor and Ephesus. And Revelation was specifically sent to churches in seven Greek-speaking cities. In addition to that, it is John who introduces us to the Logos. Logos was a Greek concept that was familiar with Greeks and John…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 13 2012,00:40)LU.I think you are trying to force this whole thing way too much. You have an agenda and you will clutch at any straw that will help this thing look like it floats.A person translating from Aramaic to Greek does not and should not write Mark in that fashion if you were doing a faithful translation. You would just…[Read more]

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    Mike,you said:Quote It is clear to all of us that your only interest in the Peshitta is the hope that it will help you prove that Jesus is the very God he is the Son of.  But I'm trying to say that this should not be just another thread for your “Jesus is God” arguments in general.  If “mitosis” has a direct link to the Peshitta, then bring it u…[Read more]

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    t8,Quote MarkRead carefully what Mark has to say. Ask yourself why he quotes in Aramaic and is obviously writing in a different language in explanation to the quotes.Mark 5:4141 He took her by the hand and said to her, “Talitha koum!” (which means “Little girl, I say to you, get up!”).Mark 7:3434 He looked up to heaven and with a deep sigh said to…[Read more]

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    t8, I will address what you said about Mark and Talitha. It involves the language that Jesus and the disciples spoke. I will answer that in my next post and assume that you agree that the mother tongue of Jesus, according to his life as a man, and his disciples was Aramaic.Quote But so far, what you have given me as far as links to defending the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2012,15:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2012,14:56)And now all YOU have to do is prove that claim.  :)  Wasn't it you who once said that the “default understanding” will always take precedence UNLESS there is clear evidence to the contrary?Where is this “CLEAR evidence” that Jesus was the only being who was ever brought f…[Read more]

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    Mike,you said:Quote But the DEFAULT is that one who is begotten didn't exist prior to being begottenNo, the default is that a separate life begins in a person before he/she is begotten. I can't think of ANY living thing that isn't a living, growing organism before they are born/begotten.

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