Mike,Quote 1. The Most High God cannot be seen by men, but Jesus can. What does that tell you?2. Jesus is an ANGEL of the Most High God Jehovah. What does that tell you?Jesus is the only begotten God…one of these times you will maybe get it. Also, Jesus is not an angel as I have shown you, He is the only begotten God that was used to be the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 19 2012,11:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 18 2012,22:40)Then the LORD (YHWH) rained down burning sulphur on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the LORD (YHWH) out of the heavens.” (19:24) Note the two YHWH’s referenced in the verse.The Targum of Johnathan reads “Then Yahweh's Word rained down burning sulphur on Sodom and Amorah – from Y…[Read more]

BD,The righteous man can not die even for the sins of one other. Jesus suffered and died for all the sins of the world to offer salvation to those who believe in Him. 1 Peter 3:8But the conclusion is that you should all be in harmony; suffer with those who are suffering, love one another, be merciful and humble. 9And you should not repay a person…[Read more]

Aramaic writings believed to be from the first century and speak of MarYah:The Odes of Shalomé 1.CrownMarYah 8 is on my head like a crown, and I will never be without Him. This crown of truth is plaited upon me; it isrooting Your branches so as to blossom forth in me. This is notlike a thirsty crown that does not bloom; for You live on my head,…[Read more]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9655501/Odes-of-Shalome-Odes-Songs-of-SolomonNumber 29…read it and read all! Amazing !!!

This is a good article:Early Nazarenes As attested to by the Talmud, the early Hebrew believers used scriptures that contained the Name.They used a copy of a gospel written by Matthew in Aramaic. Aquila 128 AD Aquila of Pontus, translated the Old Testament into Greek. He was born in Sinope, Pontus (now Sinop, Turkey). His translation of the Old…[Read more]

Mike,Just because YOU are not aware of evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Language is complicated, I'm sure you are finding that out.I have shown you the evidence of MarYah (which is not plural and is a compound word of Mar and Yah, the name of YHWH) being something different than just the conjugated form of Mar (marya which is…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote I have now shown you FIVE different Aramaic dictionaries that say “marya” means “lord” – not “Lord Jehovah”.I have shown you FOUR different Aramaic Interlinears that say the same thing.Mike, if an interlinear is going to translate from Aramaic to English, you will see Aramaic words translated as English words, not as Hebrew or…[Read more]

Here is a good article that I just came across…THE PRE-INCARNATE EXISTENCE OF THE SONThe scripture says that, “No man has seen God, at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared Him” (John 1:18) If no man has seen God at any time, then who appeared in various manifestations as YHWH to men of old?Who did…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 18 2012,13:36)Kathi,Here is another site you can check out.  49 MARIAH (Aramaic). “Lord God”  In the Aramaic Peshitta, this was the ‘expression’ used for God The Aramaic term for Lord comes from Mara, lord or master. When Jesus was called by the people “my Lord” –the Aramaic word was Mar (Matt.8:2;28:44-45). The term Mari…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 17 2012,15:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 18 2012,12:51)Pierre,That verse does not say that the Son is the first creation or even a creation, sorry. Anything else?         nothing else Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old;Pierre, Nice try but that speaks about wisdom and we kn…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote Oh. I guess the words “the Father” were missing in the version I quoted. LOL, did YOU believe that the one referred to as God in that context was not the Father? Quote The Greek text of 1 Tim 5:21 distinguishes Jesus as someone other than “God”, period. It does not say “God the Father”, Kathi…………. just “God”. Ie:…[Read more]

BD,If God asked you to go from being a man to being man in a cricket's body with a cricket's limitations, so that you can rescue the crickets at large, don't you think that you would be sacrificing a lot just to become so much lower than a man?? Just the fact that He lowered Himself and emptied Himself was a great sacrifice, let alone being…[Read more]

BD,Jesus did NOT fear man. He was completely courageous and at the same time expecting to suffer. It was for 'that hour' that He came. He knew that He would be with the Father soon but He knew that physically, His flesh body was going to be tortured to death in order to get to the Father. Who would look forward to the torture, BD? You would have…[Read more]

Pierre,That verse does not say that the Son is the first creation or even a creation, sorry. Anything else?

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2012,14:58)Pierre,What scripture specifically tells you that the Almighty God created The Word of God and that was the first being? What kind of being was that, anyway?Bump for Pierre…please show me in scripture what you claim to be scriptural, thanks.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2012,20:59)Kathi,I was just adding to your “Jesus is not an angel being” thread, when I noticed something odd.1 Timothy 5:21 NIVI charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality, and to do nothing out of favoritism.How can you list this scripture as…[Read more]

Pierre,What scripture specifically tells you that the Almighty God created The Word of God and that was the first being? What kind of being was that, anyway?

I used the word 'extreme.' I didn't say that He didn't want to suffer or not. He did accept it but could of called on legions of angels to take Him from it…but He did not. Jesus showed amazing courage, see here:Matt 26:47While He was still speaking, behold, Judas, one of the twelve, came up accompanied by a large crowd with swords and clubs, who…[Read more]

BD,Do you not remember me telling you the answer to this? The 'cup' was the horrible extent of suffering, not the death. This proves that He did indeed become flesh and felt every bit of the suffering. He knew He was going to suffer and die, but was wanting to be spared the 'extreme' suffering. If He did not become flesh, He could not be a blood…[Read more]