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Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2012,19:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2012,13:37)I understand that you feel that you have to belittle people because that makes you feel justified; it is telling.If I belittle a lie, then those that believe the lie may well feel belittled.I attack the lie not the person. If you happen to be part of the lie, then that is not my…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 24 2012,14:51)Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 24 2012,13:42)………….but if Jesus is God then God has been seen and talked to.Kathi listed three different scriptures that make it very clear that Jesus is not “God”, because Jesus HAS been seen by thousands of human beings – God hasn't.Mike,So, if you can get that Jesus is the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 24 2012,14:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 24 2012,14:58)BD,Naturally the Only Begotten God would be from God the Father and would have seen the Father. Put it all together, BD. There is one God YHWH the Father, and one Lord YHWH Yahshua the Messiah who is the Only Begotten God. One is from the other and therefore one is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike, Quote It seems that if the Jews worshipped the word of Jehovah, then Jesus was saying that he too worshiped that word. So if that word was always him, he would be saying he worshiped himself. But if that word was sometimes OTHER messengers of God, Jesus would have been saying that he worshipped angels.You will have to show me where the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 24 2012,14:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 24 2012,14:58)BD,Naturally the Only Begotten God would be from God the Father and would have seen the Father. Put it all together, BD. There is one God YHWH the Father, and one Lord YHWH Yahshua the Messiah who is the Only Begotten God. One is from the other and therefore one is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,It is important to know how the Jews understood their scriptures and if they worshiped what they called 'the Word of the Lord.' Jesus said that the Jews worship what they know.John 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
BD,Naturally the Only Begotten God would be from God the Father and would have seen the Father. Put it all together, BD. There is one God YHWH the Father, and one Lord YHWH Yahshua the Messiah who is the Only Begotten God. One is from the other and therefore one is Father and one is Son!You would do well to do a study about the memra of YHWH from…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,In regards to the teaching that the Memra of YHWH is the manifested YHWH as distinct from the unapproachable YHWH, I have found valuable lists of scriptures from this site:http://www.ccel.org/ccel….ghlightThis info contains lists pertaining to where the Aramaic word 'memra' was used in three targums (the Aramaic paraphrase of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
The Memra is God, yet is a separate personality from the Father and Holy Spirit:Quote The Jerusalem TargumExodus 3 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.Rabbi Tzvi Nassi cites the Jerusalem Targum to Shemot (Exodus) 3:14:And the Word of the Lord said unto…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
BD,Let me clarify for you since you seem to be stuck in your diatribe…Jesus is YHWH the SonJesus is YHWH the Son of YHWH the Father.Jesus is YHWH the Son who is 'the sent one' (malach) of YHWH the Father.Jesus is YHWH the Son who is the memra/logos (Word) of YHWH the Father.Jesus is YHWH the Son who is the arm of YHWH the Father.Jesus is YHWH the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Quote You can't have “YHWH the Son” being the one who stayed behind with Abraham, and also have “YHWH the Son” being one of the OTHER two who went on to Sodom.Where did I say that He was one of the other two? YHWH was talking face to face with Abraham, the other two 'men' who were angels went on ahead to Sodom. YHWH left Abraham then went to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 19 2012,21:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 19 2012,20:12)Mike,The YHWH speaking with Abraham said that He was going to go to Sodom and Gomorrah:Gen 18:20Then Jehovah said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous 21that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Quote Lot refered to one of the two remaining men as “adonay” in verse 18.Adonay/adonai is a plural word and used in reference to both angels.
Lightenup replied to the topic Comics, cartoons, jokes and funny stories in the forum Chatroom 13 years, 8 months ago
William,My sides are splitting, LOL. If laughter is good medicine, almost 4 hours of that should cure anyone!!Thanks for putting that on here, my kids and I were cracking up so much!

Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,I am not responding to your post at this time but I will. I want to suggest that you look at the peshitta.org forum, type in the word “proven” in the search box and scroll down to get to a comment that says “Re: The Messiah IS YHWH —> Proven” then go to that thread and read through it from the beginning. There are a bunch of people like…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
This is from the guy that is writing the interlinear that you have referred to:Quote Mar = Lord and Yah = the Name of God. “Mar-Yah”. It's a title in Aramaic used exclusively for YHWH.and:Quote Mar-Yah contains an abbreviated form of the NAME of YHWH, as found in the Psalms. It's a title, again. It's not meant to replace the personal Name of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,The YHWH speaking with Abraham said that He was going to go to Sodom and Gomorrah:Gen 18:20Then Jehovah said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous 21that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.”
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Quote I'm pretty sure that your source was pointing to 19:24, in which it seems like one YHWH, who was on the ground, made it rain fire and sulfur from the YHWH who had left to go back to heaven:No, the YHWH that was talking face to face with Abraham was the one who rained fire and sulfur from the YHWH that always was in heaven.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,YHWH is also the expression used for God.
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Quote So why am I not seeing “Lord Yahweh” in these interlinears?Well, one thing we know for sure is that Yahweh does exist, so if you can't find it in the interlinears, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. The Odes of Shalome have MarYah as the:8 MarYah = the Aramaic expression of the sacred name YHWH. YAH is its poetic abbreviation; in…[Read more]
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