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Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
t8,You are correct, God can be in you too and you are not YHWH. God the Father is in Jesus and Jesus is in the Father and that is not what makes Him YHWH. It is his true original nature that makes Him YHWH. It is His relationship to YHWH the Father that makes Him YHWH the Son. They both have the true original eternal nature that makes on YHWH. No…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2012,17:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 02 2012,14:43)We are also men of the same nature as you, and preach the gospel to you that you should turn from these vain things to a living God, WHO MADE THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH AND THE SEA AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM.Three things:1. Will Paul still be in human nature when he receives…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 02 2012,04:54)You are dreaming LU.A father of a son is the source of the son.The source obviously is the predecessor.Jesus is the image of God.An image is a reflection or in the likeness of the original. To be any kind of image there first needs to be an original. Just like Eve was made in the glory of the man. She did not precede…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,you say:Quote I believe in MANY mighty theos's, Kathi. And I will likely serve MANY mighty theos's as well. For Jesus will not rule alone, but along with many other powerful, spirit beings such as John and Paul and Peter, etc. In Biblical terms, they too will be mighty theos's that I serve.But this is what Paul says (the one you mention ab…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
I brought this over from another thread because it speaks of the “Memra of YHWH” and “Memra” is an Aramaic term which is the language of the Peshitta…this topic.In regards to the teaching that the Memra of YHWH is the manifested YHWH as distinct from the unapproachable YHWH, I have found valuable lists of scriptures from this…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Quote In all cases of such relationships, the father exists BEFORE the son does.In all such cases the father also had a beginning and did not exist at one time. Dream on Mike, you can't make an apple to apple analogy. It doesn't hold up, does it.
Lightenup replied to the topic Jesus is not an angel being in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Rev 3:5Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)“He who overcomes in this way is garbed with a white garment, and I shall not blot out his name from The Book of Life, and I shall confess his name before my Father and before his Angels.”Young's Literal TranslationHe who is overcoming — this one — shall be arrayed in white garments, and I will not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Jesus is not an angel being in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Rev 14:10Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)Shall also drink from the wine of the passion of THE LORD JEHOVAH, which is mixed without dilution in the cup of his rage, and he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy Angels and before the Lamb.” Young's Literal Translationhe also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, that ha…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Jesus is not an angel being in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)Rev 7:10And they shouted with a great voice, and they were saying, “Salvation to our God, and to him Who sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb!” 11And all of the Angels were standing around the throne and The Elders and The Four Beasts, and they fell before the throne on their faces,New International Vers…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 27 2012,21:16)That would add up to TWO Almighty Gods, Kathi. There is but ONE Almighty God. Jesus is that One's Son.Mike,You claim to believe in and serve one almighty theos and one mighty theos, right? That would be two theos that you believe in, Mike.
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 27 2012,21:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 26 2012,14:07)Mike, Quote It seems that if the Jews worshipped the word of Jehovah, then Jesus was saying that he too worshiped that word. So if that word was always him, he would be saying he worshiped himself. But if that word was sometimes OTHER messengers of God, Jesus would h…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Thanks for reading it. What did you think?So you believe in and serve two mighty theos's then, correct?
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
BD,you said:Quote There is ONLY ONE GOD Jesus is not God and is only called the only begotten as a metaphor or analogy the simple proof is theBible says that Isaacx was theonly begotten of Abraham and it is completely untrue in accuracy but as an analogy or metaphor can be used.The Bible calls others the firstborn of God is the Bible true in that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Did you not look at that link?Do you believe in one begotten God, the Son as well as one God, the Father?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,This is so important for you to consider because it totally shows the divinity and deity of Christ if it is true and you need to believe what is true otherwise you will be denying a very important truth that may have tremendous consequences to you as you continue in false teaching. So, because of the level of importance, contact Paul and be…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,I suggest that you become a member of the forums at Peshitta.org and send Paul Younan a PM with your questions. He is a native speaker of Aramaic and is a deacon at a church in Chicago that uses the Peshitta. He is also the one who is writing the interlinear that you have looked at. He would be a much better person for you to ask your…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2012,19:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2012,13:37)So t8, you have not proven to me that you are open minded in any wayOK, let's have a look at why I am close minded.I believe the following undoubtedly and I am closed minded right? Because it is this that you have the problem with and I can either believe what you are telling me…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2012,17:03)You mean where he says this:The Holy Name of God is YHWH in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, English and Swahili. There is only one Name of God, and the language is Hebrew. There is no other name in any other language. Only titles. Maryah is a title, not a name. It's not meant to replace the personal Name of YHWH.Or…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2012,19:03)LU, when YHWH appears it is also often through an angel. And we are not expected to call the angel, 'YHWH'.What did you expect. That YHWH can actually meet someone in bodily form. That he can fit into a finite body. Ha ha, no chance. Not even the heavens can contain him. Rather he is inside his messengers and is not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2012,19:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2012,13:37)So t8, you have not proven to me that you are open minded in any wayOK, let's have a look at why I am close minded.I believe the following undoubtedly and I am closed minded right? Because it is this that you have the problem with and I can either believe what you are telling me…[Read more]
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