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Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 6 months ago
Charles,you said:Quote ALL THAT MY FATHER HAS ARE MINE!!!Look at the context for that and tell me what you think it is referring to.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 6 months ago
Charles,I'm sorry but I'm lost in your explanation. Does the Father and the Son and the Spirit each have a will? Are you saying that the Spirit of the Father and the Spirit of the Son are the same Spirit? Is this Spirit a person?Bear with me Charles. I'm confused

Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Bo,That video supports the authority of the Bible, it doesn't seek to surpass it. Do you have questions about the video?
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 20 2012,21:02)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2012,18:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 19 2012,18:15)If human beings must go through a mediator to get to God, then the mediator cannot be the God we are going through him to get to.(Boy, that's an oddly worded sentence.
)How strange that you keep forgetting that one is the Father…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 20 2012,21:58)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2012,19:10)Mike,This is a good translation of Phil 2:6 to show you the view that fits best, imo.Philippians 2:6-11New International Version (NIV)6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God (the Father) something to be used to his own advantage;I'd like t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 6 months ago
Mike,Quote But could you tell jammin that “God the only SON” is not a viable translation of “monogenes theos”?I think that jammin understands monogenes theos as the only begotten God. I think that what you have in quote marks, he means to say 'the only begotten God that is the only begotten Son.'
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Watch this for a scholar teaching about the Jewish Trinity: Israelite MonotheismHe specializes and has a doctorate in studying ancient texts. This will be helpful to all!
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 18 2012,12:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 18 2012,22:47)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 18 2012,11:39)kathiQuote This does not make Him less powerful than the Lamb, it just makes Him not qualified as one who had to overcome the temptation to sin and be slain. There are many things that the Lamb did that the Father did not do and many…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
When I say “original eternal nature” I'm referring to the eternal past. Btw, Jesus wouldn't have died if He didn't empty Himself and become flesh.Go watch that video! Please!!
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Watch the video to answer many of your questions, Bo.
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 18 2012,09:27)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 18 2012,07:54)Mike,you asked:Quote Also, do you acknowledge that you can't make a SOLID claim of “God-worship” to Jesus just from the Greek word “proskuneo”, and that any claims of such from you or others is only wishful thinking that can't possibly be proved from scripture?No, not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Correction, Jesus is not the same as or equal to God the Father but He is the same as what God the Father is in essence and attributes. When He was made lower than the angels, naturally He prayed to God the Father.Did you watch that video?
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 20 2012,16:09)Quote (jammin @ Oct. 19 2012,03:36)the greek word says monogenes theos.it also means GOD THE ONLY SON.Not even in your wildest dreams does “monogenes theos” mean “God the only Son”.Ask your friend Kathi about it, jammin. She'll confirm what I'm telling you.Mike,I heard a scholar talk about this and he…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 6 months ago
Mike,This is a good translation of Phil 2:6 to show you the view that fits best, imo.Philippians 2:6-11New International Version (NIV)6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God (the Father) something to be used to his own advantage;7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Prayer for Others in the forum Prayer & Advice 13 years, 6 months ago
I'm sorry William that you have such pain. I will pray for you!God bless,Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 18 2012,18:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 19 2012,04:36)Animals are under man's authority no matter the man's choices…he/she is given authority simply because the nature of being human due to the Creator's design when 'they' made us.But humans can die like animals because not all are honourable or worthy. Likewise a person might be…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 19 2012,18:15)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 18 2012,17:24)True Mike.A mediator who takes us to God, is not a mediator if he is God.Exactly t8,If human beings must go through a mediator to get to God, then the mediator cannot be the God we are going through him to get to.(Boy, that's an oddly worded sentence.
)How strange that you…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Please watch this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v….re=plcp
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Do you understand that I believe that the Son is exactly like His Father in nature and attributes?
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
The Son doesn't command the Father. The Father has not been begotten by the Son. The Father was not modeled after the Son. The Father could be crucified only if He purposed to do that but He would have to come in the flesh. The Father does not pray to anyone. Why would you ask these questions?
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