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Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Define real, actual gods. Do you mean gods by nature or gods not by nature yet supernatural and having some type of authority?
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You said:
I’ve already jumped through enough hoops and feigned enough apologies for things that YOU did wrong.
Show me one time that you “feigned and apology for something I did wrong.”
You said:
For someone who wants to promote her doctrine so much that she spams every other thread with it…
Show me where you think I did this other th…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Mike,
Please address my last two posts to you. I want to see that you understand the corrections that I wrote to you. Then I will address your last post here. Thanks!
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You said:
Okay, we’re currently waiting for you to produce other scriptural instances where a named person is quoted or has an action attributed to him, and we have to pick and choose out of two possibilities who that person actually is.
And we’re waiting for an example where a group of more than one person is referred to as “he” in the…
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
Kathi? Who are these gods?
I do believe the question should be “who is this elohim?”
Answer: YHVH Elohim, i.e. the God of gods and the Lord of lords who is the Father and the Son. The same YHVH elohim that made man in their image.
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
More corrections:
Mike you said:
Kathi, you solicited Adam about the Targums before he said anything to you in the “Gods” thread. And he even responded by asking what the Targums have to do with the many gods of the Bible we were discussing in that thread.
Adam did not respond in a way that you say. this was our little conversation:
LU: Hi Adam…
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
I accept you apology for assuming that I was being disingenuous. Before going further here, I would like to address your words lamblasting me here which were put on your Yahweh Unity thread.
Mike said to LU:
And where do you expect to discuss the Targum with Adam? Will you just rudely keep spamming my “gods” thread and other threads with your…
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
If you are going to judge me as anything but honestly trying to answer you with sincere integrity, then this conversation is wasting my valuable time.
If you want to continue this discussion, you can show me that by treating me with respect and assuming that I am genuinely trying to thoughtfully respond to your posts in a sincere and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You said:
1. You imply that it’s completely normal and very common to read a verse in the Bible and have to pick and choose of your own desire who is doing the speaking.
This is what I said:
LU: The whole Bible calls for the reader to follow along and seek to understand who is speaking and to whom. Nothing new when it comes to the word…
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
you said:
Kathi, you know full well that this is not in the spirit of what I’m asking. You are being disingenuous.
You wrote that as a fact, do you mean to write that as an opinion? If as a fact, prove it to be a fact, otherwise re-write it as an opinion, like this for example:
You seem to not understand what I am asking or do you un…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago

Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike: How do you explain the fact that Moses said that Yahweh is a he, is the Father alone, and is the one who created mankind?
Deuteronomy 32:6… Is this the way you repay Yahweh (the God of gods and the Lord of lords), you foolish and unwise people? Is he (the God of gods and the Lord of lords) not your Father, your Creator, who made you and for…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Who is the speaker and to whom is he/she speaking to and defend your answer scripturally:
1On many past occasions and in many different ways, God spoke to our fathers through the prophets. 2But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son,a whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Of course you can leave it as your opinion or you can defend your opinion with scripture. If you have an opinion on something and I show you that your opinion can’t possibly be right by showing you scripture that debunks your opinion, then you learn from that and hopefully adjust your thinking accordingly and visa versa. In other words, if I have…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Of course you can have your say this is a two person discussion, you are free to have your opinions.
An example that doesn’t involve the Yahweh Unity” where the reader has to discern who the speaker is;
The book of Acts
The book of Hebrews
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You said:
Kathi, your doctrine calls for you to pick and choose which member of the Yahweh Unity is speaking or acting each and every time the Bible says Yahweh or God said or did something.
What if I join your belief system/religion? Would I then have equal say in the question of which Yahweh was speaking or acting in any given…
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
you said: Kathi is apparently afraid to defend her “Yahweh Unity” doctrine against 3 people at once… the very doctrine she’s been honing and professing all across Heaven Net to dozens of members for a decade now. 🤔
You are saying two opposing things with that statement. Either I am afraid of defending my beliefs or I have been defendin…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Here you go Mike, go to this new thread if you want to discuss this topic with me:
LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine
Lightenup started the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Here you go Mike, a place to have a one on one discussion of The Yahweh Unity Doctrine. All other members are not to post here so as to be able to more easily follow the discussion.
Thanks for respecting that. LU
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You twisted my words. I didn’t say that I want to get out of defending my beliefs, I just want to have a more focused discussion with you, the only person here that seems to want to get to the bottom of what I believe. If you think you can easily destroy my ‘doctrine’ then it would be more obvious where people can actually follow the…[Read more]
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