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Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
T8Quote (t8 @ Oct. 25 2012,03:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 25 2012,18:03)t8,You should get to know the shema: “Hear O Israel, the LORD our God , the LORD is One .”I see.”Hear O Israel,Yahweh our Gods, the Yahweh is One substance.”Let's just say that you are on your own with that one.“Hear O Israel, the LORD our God , the LORD is One .”Do…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Here you skeptics go, t8, Mike, Pierre…plenty of scripture to help you see.Watch all four videos here:http://dawnmarie4.wordpress.com/an-unex….stament
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 24 2012,19:29)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 21 2012,16:38)When I say “original eternal nature” I'm referring to the eternal past.Which comes from the creeds of men.Another God eternally proceeding from the Original God and yet not one without the other and both YHWH, and sharing the same DNA code that is spirit, but excluding angels and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2012,13:55)The question was WHY would we need to come to the SECOND Almighty God? If Jesus can do everything his own God can do, then why is the hope to be judged worthy by Jesus to approach God?Is the second Almighty God capable of doing something for us that the first one cannot do? YES or NO?Yes, one is a F…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
t8,You should get to know the shema: “Hear O Israel, the LORD our God , the LORD is One .”
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 18 2012,09:15)2) Hear, O Israel; Yahweh our Elohim is ONE.Btw, Elohim is a plural word so no need to add an s to it.YHWH is called 'him' and not 'them' because it is the name of a unity in that case.The church is called a 'she' and not a them for the same reason although it too has more than one member.Yahweh our Elohim is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
They are both YHWH. Do you not know what a unity means…Do YOU believe the Shema? YHWH our Elohim, YHWH is one? Nothing there mentions allah. Is YHWH your God?
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 24 2012,00:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 23 2012,13:11)And when you are done with those verses, put t8's understanding to the test when God is mentioned in some other verses…substitute 'God' with the word 'Father' and see if t8's understanding passes the test:John 1:1In the beginning was the word, and the word was with the Father,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
t8,apekriqh Qwmav kai eipen autw, O kuriov mou kai o qeov mou.This verse is John 20:28, it has your definite article with qeov, 'o qeov' and refers to Jesus as “the God of me” when literally translated. So unless you admit that Jesus is also identified as 'the God' of Christians then you are not being honest. Also, the Father is the God of this…
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
“Hear O Israel, the LORD our God , the LORD is One .”This is my confession.
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
The video does not disagree with the Shema, it supports it.
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2012,14:55)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 23 2012,13:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2012,23:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 22 2012,17:11)John 1:1In the beginning was the word, and the word was with the Father, and the word was .That is brilliant, Kathi. So simple, yet I've never thought to use it!
Obviously, if the God t…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2012,13:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 22 2012,17:11)John 1:1In the beginning was the word, and the word was with the Father, and the word was .That is brilliant, Kathi. So simple, yet I've never thought to use it!
Obviously, if the God the Word was with in John 1:1 was the Father, then the Word could not possibly be t…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Mike,You need to give this video a chance…you like the other one that he teaches on. Please

Lightenup replied to the topic As indeed there are many gods……….. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 6 months ago
You are welcome Mike! I'm glad that you are enjoying your 'birthday present' from me

Lightenup replied to the topic As indeed there are many gods……….. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 6 months ago
Here Mike, I see that it is your birthday so here is a present for you:This should interest you regarding this subject. More in the series:Sorry but this video did not have an 'old' embed code:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v….p_video
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2012,20:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 20 2012,16:09)Quote (jammin @ Oct. 19 2012,03:36)the greek word says monogenes theos.it also means GOD THE ONLY SON.Not even in your wildest dreams does “monogenes theos” mean “God the only Son”.Ask your friend Kathi about it, jammin. She'll confirm what I'm telling you.Mike,I heard…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2012,21:54)Watch this for a scholar teaching about the Jewish Trinity: Israelite MonotheismHe specializes and has a doctorate in studying ancient texts. This will be helpful to all!Watch this people!!!
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 22 2012,05:11)RichT, try this fair test that proves the Trinity Doctrine is false.If this test is not good enough for you, then obviously in that case, the bible is not good enough for you.Be honest when you consider this:Try replacing the word ‘God’ in any of the 100 verses below (or any other verse containing that word) and rep…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Bo,What was said in the video to make you think that it is not saying that the Father is greater?If one of the two 'powers' in heaven came from within the other 'power' then the 'power' that brought forth the 2nd one would be greater in the sense that the 1st 'power' was able to being another 'power' just like Him forth and was not 'brought forth'…[Read more]
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