Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2012,23:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,23:50)t8,Quote “For us there is one God the Father.”For you there are at least 2 gods, God the Father, and God the Son.I don't have two God the Fathers, I just have one God the Father also…who happens to be with one God the Son.Mike,Jesus can do EVERYTHING He sees the Almighty…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2012,23:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,23:50)t8,Quote “For us there is one God the Father.”For you there are at least 2 gods, God the Father, and God the Son.I don't have two God the Fathers, I just have one God the Father also…who happens to be with one God the Son.Mike,Jesus can do EVERYTHING He sees the Almighty…[Read more]

Pierre,Do you believe that the Lamb is not also the Son of God?

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2012,00:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,19:39)I have a question for the skeptics who believe that Jesus was created, t8, Mike and all. I don't believe he was created. Creation is defined as all that was made by God through Christs/Word.Jesus is special in that he is the first born of all creation. Then all things that were…[Read more]

Mike,The Father and the Son are both the 'First and the Last.'Isaiah 44:6Thus said Jehovah, king of Israel, And his Redeemer, Jehovah of Hosts: 'I am the first, and I the last, And besides Me there is no God.Rev 22:12“Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. 13“I am the Alpha and…[Read more]

I have a question for the skeptics who believe that Jesus was created, t8, Mike and all. If the Father is the only true God, as you claim, the Son is the only true ____.Please fill in the blank, thanks!

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 27 2012,03:59)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,22:50)Mike,Jesus can do EVERYTHING He sees the Almighty God the Father doing. How can one do that unless He is almighty also.What scripture says Jesus can do EVERYTHING the Father can do?Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,22:50) Remembering that the Son is a theos…how many theos…[Read more]

t8you said:Quote Each is YHWH because they are melded together by the spirit according to you.Each is YHWH because each eternally existed. Their Spirit is united to be one spirit within believers.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,23:50)t8,Quote “For us there is one God the Father.”For you there are at least 2 gods, God the Father, and God the Son.I don't have two God the Fathers, I just have one God the Father also…who happens to be with one God the Son.Mike,Jesus can do EVERYTHING He sees the Almighty God the Father doing. How can one do…[Read more]

No Mike,Eternal beings are almighty and can do anything they purpose to do. The eternal Father had to have an eternal Son within Him in order to be a 'father.'I don't know of any fathers who were fathers before their first offspring existed within their parent.

t8,Quote “For us there is one God the Father.”For you there are at least 2 gods, God the Father, and God the Son.I don't have two God the Fathers, I just have one God the Father also…who happens to be with one God the Son.Mike,Jesus can do EVERYTHING He sees the Almighty God the Father doing. How can one do that unless He is almighty also. Two…[Read more]

Bo,Is YHWH your God?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 25 2012,12:23)Kathi,The SON OF the Most High God cannot also be the Most High God UNLESS you believe in TWO Most High Gods.You do, so many things in scripture simply don't apply to you.  See, you have forsaken the most critical teaching of the Bible:  Yahweh your God is ONE.You point out that the Hebrew word “echad” can r…[Read more]

Here are the slides that go with the videos…they are full of scriptures. What an awesome presentation!http://www.gracebellingham.org/index.p….emid=41

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 25 2012,14:20)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 24 2012,22:45)Why in the world would angels and men be YHWH since they were created??  You can't be YHWH and have a created beginningBingo!  Jesus was created as the first of YHWH's works, and Micah 5 speaks about his beginning.Surely you can now at least see why we don't buy into y…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 25 2012,17:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 25 2012,18:45)Nah, He never emptied Himself of Himself. He was still YHWH the Son when He was also man.Oh this is getting real interesting now.YHWH 1 is the Father and doesn't have a name.YHWH 2 has the name Yeshua and he emptied himself of something.So lets revise the theory so far:Another…[Read more]

Watch the videos, learn something. I'm trying to help you!!

So Ed, God has 4 tiles now…if He gets one more does He get kicked out from HN?Just kidding, I couldn't resist

Mike,Notice your verse does not say 'Most High YHWH,' or 'Most High Lord.' My claim is that Elohim, a unity of two who are both eternal, one is Father and one is Son, and the Father is the God of gods then the Son who is Lord of Lords would be the Son of the Most High God. The Lord of lords is the Son of the God of gods. YHWH is both the God of…[Read more]

Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,08:25)t8, Quote Oh I understand you wanting to move on. The biggest proof verse for the Trinity is not even a biblical verse.A simple, “Oh I didn't realise that this was not a verse” would have sufficed.You see this is my point. You still accuse me of something I don't believe. Calling people out and telling them…[Read more]