Hi Bo,you said:Quote I see from the video why you believe the way you do,…That is great that you watched the video, I really appreciate that. It helps you see that there are scriptural reasons for what I believe and that I am not alone in this. It also helps you see that a common understanding of the Jew, regarding monotheism, allowed for two…[Read more]

t8,you said:Quote You never refer to a group of beings, 2+ as HIM.I can prove you wrong so easily it isn't even funny. Watch and learn Psalms 149:2Let Israel be glad in his Maker; Let the sons of Zion rejoice in their King.Israel is a name of one man (Jacob)Israel is also a name of a unity of the sons of Zion/Jacob (Israel).In the above verse…[Read more]

t8,You have a couple of questions that you have not answered. Keep in mind that this is the hot seat and if you avoid questions you get a tile unless you are above your own rules Here are the questions you haven't answered that I am asking you to answer:Quote Now, please clarify if you believe that each mention of the word YHWH in the Gen 19…[Read more]

Bo, At least watch the 4th video, please. YHWH is not only the only true God but also the only true Lord and Jesus is that Lord. YHWH is two powers. The 4th video makes this clear. Please just watch that one…it is based on scripture in the OT and the NT and shows what the first century Jews were conscious of…two powers of YHWH.

The first topic of the first video is (from the notes of the speaker):1. Understanding Israel's MonotheismThe problems to address are as follows:* Many Jews see belief in Jesus as God alongside the God of Israel as a violation of monotheism.* Many scholars believe all or most Israelites (even the biblical writers) were polytheists.* Other…[Read more]

From the speaker's notes on the first video, the payoff of understanding the divine plurality of YHWH is:Jewish EvangelismApologetic DiscussionBiblical ContinuityInterpretive ClarityContextualized TheologyThe topics covered in the first video are:1. Understanding Israel's Monotheism2. Judaism's Two Powers in Heaven Doctrine (OT)3. Jewish &…[Read more]

Pierre, t8, Mike,To understand the first century Jew and how they saw YHWH as two powers watch this fourth video from here:http://www.gracebellingham.org/index.p….emid=41Pierre, please watch that video and then I will pin point what you asked for. The video will help you understand what I will show you. Thanks!

Mike,Quote Kathi, please, for the love of God, would you educate your less intelligent friend on this matter?Why are you having such a hissy fit about this Mike? If someone is an only begotten at the Father's side, and monogenes was written in the masculine sense, a son would be a natural implication. It is written in the masculine, and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2012,14:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,13:05)Mike,Well, close but more like this:Who, being in very nature God… (someone who has the nature of God and should be treated as God………….)And who or what do you mean by your two uses of the word “God” in your parenthesis?God nature is the nature of one who is…[Read more]

Bo,Is that the best you can do…”it just doesn't hold up?” That is no type of rebuttal. Do you not believe in the 'two powers of YHWH?'Please go here and watch these four videos to see the second power of YHWH (watch the 4th video first to particularly see the 'two powers of YHWH):http://www.gracebellingham.org/index.p….emid=41

Mike,Quote Jesus is showing his humility here, and teaching us that he can do NOTHING by himself.  He is teaching us that the things he does are NOT UP TO HIM, but that he “puppets” his God and our God to make sure he's doing things the right way that pleases his God and our God.Jesus is letting us all know, without mincing words, that he is a…[Read more]

Mike,You forgot this verse…how many theos on the throne that the Father sits on after the Son has overcome?Rev 3:21To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2012,20:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2012,23:39)If the Father is the only true God, as you claim, the Son is the only true ____.Please fill in the blank, thanks!“Son, Servant, Messiah, Prophet, and Lamb OF God”.Thanks Mike,Do you think that 'Lord' should be on that list?Also, you listed that Jesus is the one true son.…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2012,22:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,20:30)Yet you believe that Jesus was not eternal but had a beginning to His existence. When was that, t8?Approximately 1,009,876,690,545,443.987987987 light years before creation. NOTE: I might be out by a .00001 of a nanosecond.So, basically you have no idea Do you believe that the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2012,17:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2012,07:53)“Is that a deal?” Are you joking? Are you really needing to 'make a deal' before you will answer my questions?Yes.Why?

Hi Bo,When we see YHWH speaking as one, it is as YHWH Echad (the eternal unity).

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 27 2012,19:01)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2012,21:05)Mike,The first 'God' is a word that is in contrast to 'servant.'God would mean 'a type of nature that would be served as God.'So then like this?6 Who, being in very nature someone that should be served as God,   did not consider equality with God (the Father) something…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 27 2012,14:19)Quote ALL THAT MY FATHER HAS ARE MINE!!!   Lightenup,I do my best to be brief:Genesis 3:17…………..cursed is the earth in thy work;………………. As you can read, although the earth, was perfect, through Adam’s labour, through his evil contaminated energy, obvious since Satan’s spirit was in his soul…[Read more]

Pierre,You are not still a project manager if you are retired from being a project manager. You are still and always have been a son of your father though, before you were a project manager, while you were a project manager and even now that you are retired from being a project manager. Being the Son of God was not a 'job' He could possibly retire…[Read more]

Bo,Did you know that 'echad' can mean a unity of more than one member? The word is used here for two persons becoming one flesh, many people with one voice, and many people becoming one people for example:Genesis 2:24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. 25And…[Read more]