t8,How many theos do we need to know, believe in and serve for eternal life?

Jesus is not Lord over the Father, t8, He is Lord over the created lords.Together the Father and Son are the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the YHWH Echad, the eternal unity.When did Jesus become a theos or was He always a theos according to you?

Jesus is both, so is the Father.

Your YHWH is only the God of gods, t8, mine is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords. Maybe if you ask the Father, He will be gracious to you and give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know Him better.

Jesus was not comparing the Father to Himself but to the gods being worshiped all around Jesus in the world. Jesus was including Himself in who was to be known for eternal life.

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,00:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,17:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 01 2012,21:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,20:45)Mike,I think this sums things up to show that Jesus is making Himself out to be the Son of God and therefore God with the Father:I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself……………I…[Read more]

Jesus is only Lord to you if He is not YHWH the Son who is the Lord of lords. Isn't that right, t8?1 Cor 12:3Because I inform you of this: there is no man who speaks by The Spirit of God and says, “Yeshua is damned”, neither can a man say, “Yeshua is THE LORD JEHOVAH”, except by The Spirit of Holiness.

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,00:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,19:17)The Father gave His Son His name YHWH before creation.There you go dreaming again.When are you going to wake up.There is a second power called YHWH and the video about two powers proves it with scriptures. Did you watch it?

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,00:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,19:09)Quote The second point is HIS because Israel is a single nation.YHWH is HE because YHWH is a single unity.So you admit that Israel is HIM because Israel is one nation.Why don't you just say it was right instead of not publicly acknowledging it and trying to enforce another point…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,00:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,19:09)Quote The second point is HIS because Israel is a single nation.YHWH is HE because YHWH is a single unity.Technically that could work, but it completely contradicts scripture making you wrong. These prove you are wrong and as I said before they also prove that Trinitarians are…[Read more]

Adam is not called the son of God in the genealogies check your interlinear the word 'son' is not there.YHWH the Son is what HE is and Yeshua is what He came to be called in His incarnation.YHWH is the name of the Father, is it not? Yeshua is not the name of the Father. The Father gave His Son His name YHWH before creation. The Father gave Him…[Read more]

Quote The second point is HIS because Israel is a single nation.YHWH is HE because YHWH is a single unity.

The Father is not the only true God in the 'fullest' sense since the fullest sense would be the one true God AND the Lord of lords together with their Spirit. The YHWH Echad, the eternal unity is God in the fullest sense. But, the Father is the only true God in a more specific sense compared to the created gods.It seems for you that God in His…[Read more]

You said binity is two persons, one being, didn't you? You said that you and your wife were not a binity. If you call what I believe as a binity then you are talking out of two sides of your mouth and are a double minded man.I do not claim binity or trinity as I have said clearly. Stop labeling me that.You can call me a Christian or one who…[Read more]

t8,Quote Paul is saying that God is the Father. And Jesus is Lord.And scripture says this:Deut 10 14“Behold, to YHWH your God belong heaven and the highest heavens, the earth and all that is in it. 15“Yet on your fathers did the LORD set His affection to love them, and He chose their descendants after them, even you above all peoples, as it is thi…[Read more]

t8,It is like you are almost getting it but then you don't. It really is simple and most Christians agree that the Father and Son are both YHWH. I don't know why you think I am the only one.

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,23:10)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,16:08)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,16:21)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,00:08)Paul of Tarsus: For us there is one God the Father.Kathi of America: For me there is one God the Father + Son/KJ of America: For me there is one God the Father, Son, SpiritKathi. Whom shall I believe. Kathi of America,…[Read more]

Well, I differ in that I don't see from scriptures the Holy Spirit as an individual person with a separate will and mind. I see the Holy Spirit as the omnipresence and 'inner person' so to speak of both the Father and the Son. I see the Holy Spirit as eternally their 'inner person' and omnipresence. Our spirit is called our 'inner person' and that…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,15:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,01:14)t8,If Adam had a son named Adam also, then there would be two identified as Adam who both had the qualities of adam, correct?Correct.But the second Adam would not be Adam the son of God.Well, is Adam called the 'son of God?' Not technically from what I can recall. Maybe I missed…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,15:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,02:00)If Jacob HAD given his son the name 'Israel' also, then there would have been two persons identified as Israel as well as the nation that is a unity of more than one member.This proves absolutely nothing. You are trying to win a point on a technicality, when it is an unrelated…[Read more]