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Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Bo,We aren't told why she didn't recognize Him, maybe she didn't look intently, maybe she was teary and couldn't see clearly. It didn't take her long before she did recognize Him. She certainly wasn't expecting Him to be standing there.Thomas saw the scars in His hand and side and so this is proof that He was hung on the cross. This proves that it…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Thanks for your answer, t8.So new question…regarding these two following verses, how many persons are seated together on the Father's throne and who are they?The verses are:Rev 22:1Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb,Rev 3:21To him who overcomes, I will give the right to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Also, Pierre,The word you meant is 'which' not 'witch.'Those two words have completely different meanings.
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Pierre, Do you know what a witch is?Definition of WITCH1: one that is credited with usually malignant supernatural powers; especially : a woman practicing usually black witchcraft often with the aid of a devil or familiar : sorceress — compare warlock2: an ugly old woman : hag3: a charming or alluring girl or woman4: a practitioner of Wicca5: w…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote Jesus has a God are you really seriously going to tell me that the God of Jesus has a God?Confused…do you think I am telling you this?Do you think that the man on the cross was not Jesus but someone else?
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Mike,Quote THEN, at the next LOWER position is man, who is under both our ONE and ONLY Almighty God AND ALSO UNDER the one our God appointed as our Lord.THEN comes woman, at an even LOWER level.In a husband/wife relationship the husband is the head of the wife but yet they are one and yet they are equal.Do you disagree with this statement?In the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Mike,The YHWH Echad, the eternal unity, is not dependent on roles, or titles, but it is dependent on eternal existence. The Shema doesn't say eternal God of gods or eternal Lord of lords but it does indicate two powers who are eternal, one as the God of gods and one as the Lord of lords and at the time the Shema was first introduced, the Father…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 6 months ago
Mike,I think that you are thinking about 'gennao,' Strong's #1080 which is translated as 'generate' in 2 Tim 2:23World English BibleBut refuse foolish and ignorant questionings, knowing that they generate strife.Strong's #1096 is not translated as 'generate' so therefore, I am not going to either.The English dictionary is not making a distinction…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Well Mike,He was eternally YHWH the Son before creation. His YHWH status did not depend on being Lord over something but instead it depended on being eternal.
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Pierre,Is there a 'witch heaven?'

Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Bo, Do you believe that the whippings and scourging was removed from Him too?They are interdependently sovereign. The Father creates through the Son, redeems mankind through the Son, gives eternal life through the Son, judges all men through the Son, etc. Their interdependence is not a weakness but the Almighty strength and perfection.Quote So why…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,07:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2012,21:50)t8,You have a couple of questions that you have not answered. Keep in mind that this is the hot seat and if you avoid questions you get a tile unless you are above your own rules
Here are the questions you haven't answered that I am asking you to answer:Quote Now, please…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Bo,Prove what the 'cup' was…was it being a sacrifice or was it being tortured. I don't believe that He was asking to not be the sacrifice but was asking to not be tortured. He could have ascended right there in the garden if He wanted to. It was His choice to stay and die. He chose to die before He came as man, that is why He came as a man. He…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,16:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,22:16)Paul is not identifying the Father as the one YHWH or the one God in the fullest sense of the word.Hmmmm………………..
How do you know? From the other things Paul says about our “one God, the Father”, it seems to me that he considers Him to be “God in the f…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,16:58)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,22:20)t8,It is like you are almost getting it but then you don't. It really is simple and most Christians agree that the Father and Son are both YHWH. I don't know why you think I am the only one.How many organized denominations teach about our TWO Almighty Gods, Kathi?There is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,19:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,22:39)You, t8 believes that YHWH is ONLY the God of gods and not also the Lord of lords. I believe that YHWH is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords.Matthew 11:25At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,16:47)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,22:10)Here is what you are implicating:2) That Jesus was made both Lord and Christ, and that he has always been God too.She claims that Jesus was MADE Lord – even though he HAS ALREADY BEEN Lord from eternity.Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,22:10)You are drunk on your own doctrine and cannot…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,21:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,03:50)Jesus is not Lord over the Father, t8, He is Lord over the created lords.Why are you telling me this?Because you said this and implied that I was saying that Jesus was the Lord of the Father. I am not saying that.Quote To anyone who can read scripture and reason, that person…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 6 months ago
Bo,Quote So what you are saying is the sacrificing of a son is an abomination and foreign to God, right? I agree.The sacrificing that was happening in those scriptures was not a mutual desire between the children being sacrificed and the parents who are sacrificing them from what I can tell and therefore it was murder by the parents. If a person…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 6 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2012,16:08)KathiI believe the word SCROLL (S) IS USED BECAUSE THEY WERE ROLLED UP ,RIGHT
Pierre,Scroll or book form it is to biblio.Either way, it is 'biblio' in the Greek and God's word.- Load More

