Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 12 2012,18:04)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2012,20:48)Hi Mike,You have not proven anything until you prove it to someone else.What I proved is that it is scriptural that we have the very same God Jesus has.If Jesus' God isn't a combination of Father and Son, then our God isn't a combination of Father and Son.People are free to…[Read more]

Bo, I take them as facts. I believe God's Word, the Bible. These facts changed the world.

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 12 2012,14:58)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 12 2012,12:41)do we need to know, believe in, and serve, in order to gain eternal life?Ultimately it is one God that we believe and serve to gain eternal life.He delegates his authority firstly to Christ, the head of the Church and our Lord. Then to angels, apostles, prophets, teachers,…[Read more]

Page 20 of the notes for the first video from this link:http://www.gracebellingham.org/index.p….emid=41What follows is a summary thus far:To This Point*Biblical use of the word elohim shows us itis not tied to a set of attributes.*Explains why more than one thing can be described with elohim.*English translations at time obscure the meaning and…[Read more]

Page 18 of the notes of the first video:elohim=place of residenceHere the speaker has a diagram with four squares and a small square in the middle.Top left square says:Plural elohim (gods) of councilTop right square says:demonic elohimBottom left square says:elohim as messengers (angels)Bottom right square says:elohim as disembodied human deadThe…[Read more]

t8,I did not request explanations, just a number, but feel free to explain…take them three at a time if you wish. Go ahead and start with the first three.

Mike,Quote You point blank told us all that YOU have the same God as Jesus has…………. but you “also have the Son” along with that God. So YOU have admitted that you've added a member to your God. I haven't done that, for there is no scriptural reason for me to do so.Yes, I have the same God AND Father as Jesus BECAUSE I have Jesus. Apart…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Is there only one God who created the heavens, the earth, and everything in them? YES or NO?Yes, if you are referring to our God who is the YHWH Echad, the eternal unity.Quote You can't say I have a different God than you because I believe Jesus was created and you don't. We still have the same God who created us, no matter what we…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 10 2012,11:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 10 2012,15:35)An eternal Father would presume the eternal existence of a Son or there would be no eternal 'Father.' It is typical for a Son to exist within His parent before being begotten/brought forth.Why would it presume that?  Why would there be no eternal father without that…[Read more]

It was God's will for Jesus to endure the cross and to be an atoning sacrifice for our sins.1 John 4:10This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.Romans 3:25God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 10 2012,21:20)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 11 2012,01:39)Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!”So what does this prove?That there is one who is God…[Read more]

Acts 20:28″Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God (tou theou) which He purchased with His own blood.http://interlinearbible.org/acts/20-28.htm

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 09 2012,23:24)Mike and t8,Quote Even being equal to something infers that you are not that thing you are equal.We are not saying that both are 'A' but that there is 'A' + 'B' +' C' = 'A,B,C' unity. We understand that YHWH is a unity of the Father, Son together with their Holy Spirit and you do not accept that. This is the…[Read more]

So, not only do we need to know the Father AND the Son for our eternal salvation but we need to be known by the Son.

Hi Bo,Matt 12:7″But if you had known what this means, 'I DESIRE COMPASSION, AND NOT A SACRIFICE,' you would not have condemned the innocent.Do you see that they condemned the innocent?Do you see how offering a sacrifice without loving God and loving your neighbor is a dead work? That would be a sacrifice without compassion, just going through the…[Read more]

Great 2besee, we are in sync then.

2beseeQuote you workers of lawlessness.’Could the workers of lawlessness be those who did not love their neighbor as themselves? Wouldn't that be lawlessness if that is the summation of the whole law? 13For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 1…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 09 2012,23:24)Mike and t8,Quote Even being equal to something infers that you are not that thing you are equal.We are not saying that both are 'A' but that there is 'A' + 'B' +' C' = 'A,B,C' unity. We understand that YHWH is a unity of the Father, Son together with their Holy Spirit and you do not accept that. This is the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 09 2012,23:45)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 09 2012,22:35)An eternal Father would presume the eternal existence of a Son or there would be no eternal 'Father.'What was that scripture again that speaks of the “eternal Father”?They are both the 'First and the Last.' There is no other possibility than both being eternal, thus there…[Read more]

Jesus' God was not His creator, so Jesus' God is not your God because your God was Jesus' creator. He can't be both The creator of Jesus and not the creator of Jesus before the ages, Mike.