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Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike said: “You said ‘X’ in another thread, and you need to take it back and apologize before I address your posts that actually have to do with what we’re supposed to be discussing here”. *
I never demanded an apology from Mike, I just wanted him to prove his accusations with facts, not opinions and if he could not, then he needed to acknowle…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Gene,
You can see that you are on my mind on this Friday afternoon :).
Read this:
Eph 6:23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Is the lord Jesus Christ part of the “brethren” in that verse or one of the Ones who give peace, love, and faith to the brethren?
The brethen receive peace…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Gene,
Read this: “I am the vine, you are the branches;” is the speaker making it sound like there are two categories, one more dependent than the other? If so, which one is more dependent, the vine or the branches?
You always finish your post with wishing us peace and love. The way to peace and love is by being of the same mind…whose mind…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Gene,
Do you know who said these words and to whom?
” ‘A slave is not greater than his master.’” Who is the slave in that statement and who is the master, do you know?
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Gene,
Do you know who said these words and to whom?
“…keep My commandments…?”
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Gene,
You said: LU……Please show us, a scripture that say that Jesus was more then a “man”.
Gene, do you know who said this and to whom: “apart from Me you can do nothing”?
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Adam, did you answer my last question to you? If so, would you mind showing me your response? Thanks.
Here was my post to you:
It is refreshing that you also see that the NT is declaring Jesus as a “Co-person with God in all activities starting from the first creation and ending with new creation mainly based on the NT”, as you say.
Would you…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Gene, yes, Jesus was a man but also more than a man at the same time. You would be wise to seek the matter out with an open heart. Many can see it. You’re misunderstanding of “dia” is not helping lead you towards truth, for starters.
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You said: Not a “son”. Not a “they”. Not a “Yahweh Unity of the Spirit”. Just our heavenly Father named Yahweh – who is a single male person referred to as “he”.
Simply put, we disagree. Many can see it. Sorry you won’t.
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Proclaimer:
You said: Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
Do you agree that this is just as true according to the NASP1995:
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and the only begotten God, Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Proclaimer,
You asked: Is this true LU? Mike may be wrong in some even many things, but at least he has the character to defend what he believes and sit on the Hot Seat.
I was never on the Hot Seat with Mike. He wanted to make a thread devoted to what I believe about the YHVH Unity and I told him that I would discuss it in a one on one…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Gene
You asked: LU……Whose “word” came to be the flesh man Jesus?
YHVH’s Word. The Word of YHVH the same one that appeared to Samuel here:
1 Samuel 3 21And the LORD appeared again at Shiloh, because the LORD revealed Himself to Samuel at Shiloh by the word of the LORD.
That same “Word of the LORD” that appeared to Samuel was in the beginni…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Gene,
You don’t know what the trinitarians teach. They don’t teach that the Son is the “principal” within the Godhead. They teach that the Father is the head within the unity. Similarily, Jesus is the “head” within the unity of the body, the church.
HN would be a more intelligent place to discuss things regarding faith if this concept was n…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Many can see that The only begotten Son of God is equivalent to The only begotten God who was with God in the beginning and they together act as one within the unity of Yahweh God. Missing that leads to what we see here on HN. Embracing The divine Unity within Yahweh will help everybody move alone in their spiritual life, imo.
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Adam,
It is refreshing that you also see that the NT is declaring Jesus as a “Co-person with God in all activities starting from the first creation and ending with new creation mainly based on the NT”, as you say.
Would you say that the blanks could have also said that Jesus was a Co-Yahweh with God or something similar to that?
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Adam,
You said this to Gene:
Please take the example of Mike who calls Jesus another god among the multiple gods mentioned in the OT. Sister Kathi claims Jesus as another Yahweh along with Father Yahweh. Proclaimer and other preexisting believers claim that Jesus was created by God before all creation and came to Jerusalem after leaving his…
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Isaiah 43:10 “You are My witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may consider and believe Me and understand that I am He. Before Me no god was formed, and after Me none will come.
1 Corinthians 8:4
So about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that an idol is nothing at all in the world, and that<…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
So you say that Jesus is a real actual God. You have agreed in the past that Jesus is also the only begotten God. You have also made known that you realize that Jesus has all authority in heaven and on earth.
Since you realize that Jesus is an only begotten God, then in your list of gods, Jesus is unique from all those you list since Jesus…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Mikeboll64 regarding The Yahweh Unity Doctrine in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You said: But I feigned an apology for something I still know in my heart I was right about – just to appease you. And then I did it again for the spamming – which I still believe is exactly what you did.
Thank you for admitting that you lied about that. I will wait for someone who has the integrity to be truthful, someone who shows good…[Read more]
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