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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2012,18:35)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 10 2012,15:41)Mike, Kathi will need to correct God next.Why not?  She already corrects His holy servant Jesus all the time.It was Jesus who told us who to worship and serve as our God.It was Jesus who told us that our God was also his God.But Kathi feels she needs to correct her Lord on…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2012,00:03)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 12 2012,10:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2012,13:37)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2012,00:14)what went wrong in your book ???:):) :):)  :)  :)You can't say that Jesus is LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.The scripture says that no one can say that except by the Spirit of God. and you laugh???

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    Mike,A perfect example of God giving the words through Moses to Aaron showing that they are God's words and not Moses' own words.Exodus 8:5And the LORD spake unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch forth thine hand with thy rod over the streams, over the rivers, and over the ponds, and cause frogs to come up upon the land of Egypt.Read and learn.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2012,23:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,11:15)You say He is Lord.I say He is LORD!LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.You can't say that Jesus is LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.Scripture says he is Lord.And you deny that he is Lord.What does scripture say about that.Something serious.Are you serious. You think that I deny that Jesus is…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2012,23:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 12 2012,11:15)You say He is Lord.I say He is LORD!LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.You can't say that Jesus is LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.How can God make Jesus LORD?Exactly! One has to always exist to be given that name. Hint, hint…the mystery is unfolding before your eyes.

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    Can God offer eternal salvation apart from the Son?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    You say He is Lord.I say He is LORD!LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.You can't say that Jesus is LORD as in Jehovah, the Son.

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    No, I believe that Psalm 86:8 refers to the one Corporate God which is the YHWH Echad, the eternal God unity.

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    Yes, both the Father and the Son are sovereign.Can you answer the question?

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    Exactly!

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    I didn't think you could.

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    Quote A child can understand those verseshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yz1gJ1mXyM

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    I believe IN the Son…not just about Him. I can say, “Yeshua is the LORD Jehovah.” How about you?1 Cor 12:3 Because I inform you of this: there is no man who speaks by The Spirit of God and says, “Yeshua is damned”, neither can a man say, “Yeshua is THE LORD JEHOVAH”, except by The Spirit of Holiness.

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    To go with the above to prove the crackpot doctrine that Jesus is not Jehovah/YHWH is WRONG!Isaiah 44:6 “This is what the LORD says–Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.Israel's King and RedeemerMatt 2:2 “Where is the newborn king of the Jews? We saw his star as it rose,…[Read more]

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    Jesus said, “I and the Father are one.”Would Jesus lie? No. I agree with Jesus.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    John 316“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,f that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already b…[Read more]

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    Deut 32:39 “‘See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand.Hmmmm…there is no god beside meJohn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.I kill and I make aliveJohn 11:25 Jesus said to her, “I…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago

    NO, satan is not the God of this world. God YHWH loves this world and has no need to give it to another. God YHWH never gives another god this world.

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    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 10 2012,21:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 11 2012,11:22)Another crackpot doctrine newly surfaced:”Even Believers in Christ can be worshiped too.”Please uncrackpot that one LU.Revelation 3:9Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship…[Read more]

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    If people proskuneo Jesus and the Father as the theos, that is because together they are one corporate theos and called YHWH. If they were not, then that would be an abomination.2 Kings 17:35 When the LORD (YHWH) made a covenant with the Israelites, he commanded them: “Do not worship any other gods or bow down to them, serve them or sacrifice to them.

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