They are two different persons who do not act as two different gods but act as one god together.

Let’s try this…

Let’s assume that the God of gods is one person and the Lord of lords is another (as I understand it) and this following statement is true:

Yahweh is the God of gods and the Lord of lords.

If the previous statement is true, then this following statement is not true:

Yahweh is the God of gods but not the Lord of lords.

I don’t think they are “two individual gods” as if they could be divided as one is god of this and the other is god of that. In the OT, they were the God of Israel together, (not separately or independently) each is his specific role with the Son always under the authority of the Father as a perfect son would be not because he is a lesser being.

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Hi Mike,

Where did I say that a Yahweh Unity is “a singular living being” comprised of multiple persons?

I understand Jeremiah 31:10 to be Israel as the singular masculine pronoun “him” in the passage.

Here is one of several:

Jeremiah 31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.

Mike, I can’t think of a pair of persons that are a unity and are male in scripture so I doubt that I could give you that. If I think of a pair of persons that are also a unity of some sort other than a man and wife, I will let you know. Perhaps there is a singular personal pronoun used with man and wife. I could give you a scriptural example of a…[Read more]

Mike, I went ahead and made a dedicated thread for that just now since I said that I would discuss it after college was over. You can post there.

Gene is Jesus called the only begotten son of God in the Bible?

Hi Adam,

Thanks for your reply. Do you believe that if you die today that there will be an afterlife for you or do you just stop existing? I’m curious.

Blessings, LU

Proclaimer, I get the impression that your agreement ends with statement #1.

Proclaimer, do you go so far as to denying part or all of this statement #2, if so, what specifically do you agree with or deny:

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light,

@gadam

You said in another thread ( I brought it over to this thread because it fit a little better):

Hi Sis Kathi, Thanks for your concern for me. I am neither Atheist nor Agnostic but have become a skeptic and rationalist. I still attend Church and maintain my spiritual life with my family.

I take it that you deny all the statements in the OP,…[Read more]

Hi Adam,

Yes, I realize that you lost all those beliefs. I was wondering if you have replaced your beliefs in something else that gives you hope. Are you an atheist or agnostic?

Good reminder, Berean, thanks!

Be blessed, LU

Hi Adam,

Wonderful answer and verses to support your answer.

You said:

Yes sis Kathi the NT writers certainly gave much importance to Jesus the First Century Jew. As per these writers this Jesus was involved in God’s creation and the following are the few such verses;

John 1:1-4, 10

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,…

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Proclaimer,

Thanks for your reply here:

Usually builders build and designers and architects design. The Father created all things and I would think he designed the cosmos too. All things were created THROUGH AND FOR The Word / The Son.

Do you think that the designer of the home takes an active part of the creation of the home even though they…[Read more]

Mike,

I just read this post of yours:

LU: The book of John claims that Jesus was _______…
Mike: A god who was with THE God in the beginning.

LU:  The book of Hebrews claims that Jesus was _______…
Mike: A god whose own God set him above his peers.

Mike, in your understanding, is Jesus a god whose name you can invoke, a god whom you bow down t…[Read more]

Adam,

A more personal question for you today:

Do you believe in a god/God who created heaven and earth? If so what is his/her name/names?

Hi Adam,

“… the kindness towards humanity is the most true religion in this world.”

Adam, those are good words. They remind me of this passage:

1 Cor 13

1If I speak with the tongues of mankind and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and know all myste…[Read more]