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Lightenup replied to the topic Crackpottery in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Deut 32:39 “‘See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand.Hmmmm…there is no god beside meJohn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.I kill and I make aliveJohn 11:25 Jesus said to her, “I…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago
NO, satan is not the God of this world. God YHWH loves this world and has no need to give it to another. God YHWH never gives another god this world.
Lightenup replied to the topic Crackpottery in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Dec. 10 2012,21:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 11 2012,11:22)Another crackpot doctrine newly surfaced:”Even Believers in Christ can be worshiped too.”Please uncrackpot that one LU.Revelation 3:9Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Crackpottery in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
If people proskuneo Jesus and the Father as the theos, that is because together they are one corporate theos and called YHWH. If they were not, then that would be an abomination.2 Kings 17:35 When the LORD (YHWH) made a covenant with the Israelites, he commanded them: “Do not worship any other gods or bow down to them, serve them or sacrifice to them.
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago
So if God blinds someone through the agency of someone or something, then God is the one ultimately doing the blinding. See

Lightenup replied to the topic Crackpottery in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Another crackpot doctrine newly surfaced:”Even Believers in Christ can be worshiped too.”
Lightenup replied to the topic Crackpottery in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote Who for example who doesn't believe that Jesus was not worshiped.Do you mean to say:Who for example doesn't believe that Jesus was worshiped?If so, the answer is Mike for one.The second 'the theos' is worshiped. I rest my case!
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago
Good post Charles!
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 5 months ago
Bo,I believe that the Father, who is greater in position than any, is mightier with His Son rather than apart from His Son. So, that is why I say, together they form the Almighty God in the corporate sense.Do you agree with this statement:the Father, who is greater in position than any, is mightier with His Son rather than apart from His Son.
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago
Your problem is with the word of God and His justice, not me.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Eternal Sonship in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 5 months ago
I like facts too and to research topics that interest me. Back to the eternal sonship of Jesus Christ…
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 5 months ago
Bo, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob knew Him as God Almighty. They did not know to call Him by the name Jehovah. They referred to Him as God Almighty or Lord and probably other names but I don't see where they called His name YHWH even though it was YHWH that had been appearing to them.I believe that both the Father and the Son are together the Almighty…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic False Teachers Other Nutters in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Mike,I looked at Romans 5:12. I don't know enough Greek to understand why there is an indirect neuter pronoun used at all. In John 17:11, it is plain that 'which' is the pronoun for 'name.'The NT writers call him LORD, you just don't want to see it. Jesus is the name given the man that YHWH the Son became. YHWH is the name given the pre-existent…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Eternal Sonship in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 5 months ago
Ok Pierre, you are certainly making an assumption based on ignorance then. Maybe you should research the guy. He is mentioned a lot in the writings of the early church fathers.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Eternal Sonship in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 5 months ago
Why are you so concerned with Paul of Samasota? Do you think that you were in agreement with him?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Eternal Sonship in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 5 months ago
Yes, but they didn't make there decision because of a contemporary surviving document.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Eternal Sonship in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 5 months ago
Pierre, the document mentioned is a contemporary document that has survived. That is not what the synod went by in condemning him. Read more carefully.
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago
Pierre, What I understand is that God blinds the eyes so they cannot see and that proves you to be incorrect.
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago
Keith,I think it is because of a lack of belief and spiritual blindness resulting in delusion and false teaching.
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2012,01:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2012,22:35)No, Moses was not the god of Aaron. Moses was his brother. Aaron was not his prophet, he was God's prophet.Hmmm…………But Jehovah surely said he would make Moses a god to Aaron, and Aaron would be his prophet.Perhaps Jehovah just didn't know what He was talking…[Read more]
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