Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2013,20:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2013,18:50)If you don't know Mike, then you should stop acting like you do when you say Jesus did not create one thing.Kathi,I can only parrot the scriptures on this one:Malachi 2:10 Have we not all one Father? Did not one God create us?1 Cor 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the…[Read more]

Hi Bo,I've had a lot going on. Sorry it has taken me a few days to respond.You said:Quote The angels could have bee present in a person much like God was present wthin Christ.Please explain how you think God was present within Christ.Quote Also who said aything about denying Christ?John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and t…[Read more]

According to this, no one was 'mothered' before Eve since she was the mother of all the living.Genesis 3:2020The man called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.

Hi Bo,I'm wiped out right now. We had a party with about 40 people here tonight for a birthday party (and an extra dog) and now I have about 15 or them sleeping throughout the house, ha! I'll probably get to this tomorrow. G'nite

I'm thinking that this verse is relevant to the discussion:Romans 3:19Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. 20For by works of the law no human beingc will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes…[Read more]

Hi Bo,I am happy that you love Christ, no matter if he is the literal son or not. At least you are not dogmatically against the idea.Regarding blood needed in order to eat…well, in Gen 18, the three 'men' (one was listed as being YHWH, two were angels) ate what Abraham had served. So that negates what you said about needing blood in your body in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2013,20:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2013,18:54)Mike did you see that I bolded that part about the Father too? And the part about the Son?No.  But I see it now!    Sorry.Which one is EXPLICITELY said to be “maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible”?Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2013,18:54)I ad…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 26 2013,17:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,19:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 23 2013,12:57)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 23 2013,12:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2012,01:57)I agree with you William and I am glad that we agree together on the Nicene Creed and both understand the word 'catholic' as meaning universal and not Roman…[Read more]

Mike did you see that I bolded that part about the Father too? And the part about the Son? Then mentioned all three?I addressed Acts 3:13 already.

If you don't know Mike, then you should stop acting like you do when you say Jesus did not create one thing.

T,I believe you are right regarding the meaning of creation…making something that does not exist.Perhaps God the Father made the building blocks of creation and Jesus put them together in different shapes, i.e. beasts, cattle, fish, dry land, stars, sun, man, etc.Have you ever taken a bunch of Legos out of the new box and it was just a pile of…[Read more]

Bo, Thank you for the compliment, may God always be with you too. I appreciate you in this thread because you are being very respectful…I'm very thankful. I am concerned about your beliefs though because by denying the literal sonship, death, and resurrection, you deny some main truths which seem to be paramount to salvation. You probably…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 28 2013,19:40)Read it more closely, Kathi.  The one you bolded “proceedeth from the Father “, and is “with the Father and the Son”.So you are saying that the Holy Spirit, who proceeds forth from the Father and the Son, is the creator of all things.  But that's not what you meant to say, is it?Anyway, the part I bolded is t…[Read more]

Bo,Quote Flesh and Bone? Are you serious? Bone and Flesh are vivified by blood. Remember the LIFE is in the BLOOD. No Blood no LifeEarthly life is in the blood. There is life beyond earth but I don't see any evidence of blood in heavenly beings. I don't think we need our blood for eternal life, Bo. Jesus gave His blood for our trespasses.

2besee,Jesus is not also the Holy Spirit…Jesus is filled with the Holy Spirit though. See these verses:Acts 8:14Now when the apostles at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent to them Peter and John, 15who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16for he had not yet fallen on any of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,22:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 25 2013,10:07)Acts 5:30The God of our fathers raised Jesus, whom you killed by hanging him on a tree.And WHO, exactly, was the “God of our fathers”, Kathi?  Was it Jesus, who they killed by hanging on a tree?  Or was the Father, who raised Jesus?My God is the God of the “fathers”, K…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 26 2013,21:31)So “the Holy Ghost” is the one who created all things?  Not the Father, and not Jesus?  Huh? I list all three names and you think I list only one??

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,19:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 23 2013,12:57)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 23 2013,12:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2012,01:57)I agree with you William and I am glad that we agree together on the Nicene Creed and both understand the word 'catholic' as meaning universal and not Roman Catholic. I'm not sure, but I think that…[Read more]

2besee,You asked what version of John 1:18 I used…the NASB.

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 25 2013,11:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 26 2013,03:07)WakeupJude 1:25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.The Savior is God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Yahweh is both God and Lord. Jesus is the Lord of lords!Acts…[Read more]