Kerwin, If the boy said in response, “but Sir, you are good…are you our LORD?” I believe that Jesus would have commended him for his faith like he did Thomas and Peter when they responded well.

Quote substance/echadnot: substance/echadinstead: unity/echad

Quote If God to you isn't a substance with 2 persons, then how can both Jesus and the Father be Almighty God.How can a root also be a shoot? Ask the LORD to show you the answer to that.

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 19 2013,05:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 19 2013,16:16)I believe that you guys are going to be eating crow and I just hope God gives us the right words to help you think MAYBE Jesus is Almighty God so there will be a glimmer of reconsidering and loosening up that stiffened neck of yours.From what I am learning lately…you ought to…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 19 2013,05:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 19 2013,16:44)Well, He is at the right hand of God. Could Joseph be considered the second power of Egypt?I would have thought so. He was able to do things in the name of Pharaoh, so long as it was his will I suppose.I agree too. And Jesus is the second power of YHVH. The Father is the first…[Read more]

Mike, Gene, kerwin, etc,Jesus was likely just looking for a measure of faith within the boy by asking Him a question. The boy did not respond with faith. Maybe there should be a topic listing all of Jesus' questions and which ones were answered correctly and which ones weren't.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 18 2013,19:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 16 2013,14:17)Quote Surely God would have known how these terms would confuse us, if Jesus truly had existed from eternity, right?“He was an entity of the same kind as Himself, within Him and then born/begotten/brought forth from out of Him.”Sons are an entity within the parent of the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 18 2013,19:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 16 2013,14:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 14 2013,17:59)Hi Kathi,I am interested to know your thoughts about these points I made yesterday:Surely God knew how we humans would understand the words “son”, “firstborn”, and “only begotten”.  Why do you suppose God would TRICK us by using…[Read more]

Bo, I saw where you wrote that truth never defies logic. I believe you are mistaken here. example: Jesus is the root of Jesse and the offspring of David. He is the Root AND the Shoot!

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 11 2013,21:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 11 2013,13:43)How do I persecute Muhammad, Bo? How have I rejected the prophet Muhammad? What have I said or done?You are correct I have never read that you persecuted or rejected Muhammad it was my assumption so please accept my apology and may God forgive me for bearing false…[Read more]

Hi Mike,Quote Luke 5:8When Simon Peter saw this, he fell at Jesus’ knees and said, “Go away from me, Lord; I am a sinful man!”The bolded words above are also Stong's 1831, but that doesn't mean Jesus was inside of Peter when he said those words.Don't get me wrong, I absolutely believe Jesus was brought into existence “from within” his God and C…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 18 2013,19:21)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 16 2013,17:03)Mike, I am glad you are committed to refuting them. It solves the problem. But if we cannot keep up with the spam of false doctrine, I will look at implimenting something in that case.It is not as if I am casting false teachers into prison, because there are plenty of places…[Read more]

Quote Tell me Kathi, when he is called “the theos”, is the word “OF” included in the phrase?Sometimes…like 'church of God' refers to God Jesus. But then there is Jesus is 'God over all' and 'oh the God' spoken by the Father and 'was God' and 'the only begotten God, etc.It just adds to the magnificence of it…

Mike,Have you ever read how important the article is to t8 to indicate who is the true theos? I am just making sure he knows that the article belongs to Jesus too. That's all.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 18 2013,18:45)Are you all caught up now, Kathi?  Do you realize what the exercise was all about now?Mike,If that was his only argument, then you might have a point. However, that is not even close to the whole argument that jammin has regarding the capital G for the God that Jesus is. From what I believe God has been…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 18 2013,03:46)Hi LU,Further to what I said,I believe that God as the creator of the world created all through his own spoken word and through his own spirit just as we have our own spirit and our own spoken word, all of those things, and much more, making up US.So, I believe in ONE GOD only. That God being the same God as…[Read more]

Interesting video, Wakeup! Thanks for putting it up.

Do you worship the Son as the mighty god?Do you worship the Son as the everlasting father?Do you worship the Son as the prince of peace?Do you worship the Son as the Lord of lords?Do you worship the Son as the Lord of all?Do you worship the Son as the Word of God?Do you worship the Son as the Eternal High Priest?Do you worship the Son as the First…[Read more]

Quote The answer is NO. I do not worship Jesus as God in the sense that you use the word theos.So you worship the Son as a god then?Do you worship anyone else as a god also?

I have been meditating on this topic of Jesus being the root and offspring of David, i.e. the root and the shoot of Jesse, all week and I believe that it demonstrates how someone can be 100% God according to nature (the Root) and 100% Man according to nature (the Shoot) as Jesus is. This truth is one of the last things Jesus reveals about Himself…[Read more]