Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 24 2013,11:51)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 24 2013,11:53)Hi:The “YLT” has it this way:Quote Rom 9:3 for I was wishing, I myself, to be anathema from the Christ — for my brethren, my kindred, according to the flesh,   Rom 9:4 who are Israelites, whose the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the lawgiving, and the…[Read more]

Mike,Quote If Romans 9:5 was about Moses instead of Jesus, everybody in the world would understand that the “God over all” was the Father.  They wouldn't even CONSIDER the alternate translation that suggested Moses, the servant OF God, was the “God over all” who was mentioned, right?  This would just be God-given common sense, right?It doesn't m…[Read more]

Mike,Quote #5 is mis-worded. My claim is that the servant OF our ONE and ONLY Almighty God cannot also BE that ONE and ONLY Almighty God.So, who is saying that the Son is the Father? The Second Power of YHVH is the servant of the First Power of YHVH. No one is saying that the Second Power of YHVH is also the First Power of YHVH.

Mike,Quote #4 makes perfect sense if you understand that Jesus was not only after David, but also before him.It makes perfect sense IF….If it makes perfect common sense, why do Gene, Kerwin, et al debate this constantly with you?

Mike?Quote #1 is not only lacking common sense, but also lacks a single shred of scriptural support.You, who speak frequently about the pre-existence of Christ now don't believe He existed before conception? No scriptural support you say??

So, my next question to you in light of my last post is…can you please leave off derogatory comments, humorous or otherwise, and just present your facts because your derogatory comments/humor is not helping me see any thing you say as from God?

Kathi believes what Paul wrote here:Romans 9:5 And the Patriarchs; and from them The Messiah appeared in the flesh, who is The God Who is over all, to Whom are praises and blessings to the eternity of eternities, amen.Christians all over the world boldly proclaim what Paul wrote. Three people on here deny what Paul wrote here and try to twist the…[Read more]

T8, You are blinded to the scriptures that speak of Jesus as God over all. You and your buddies seem to have a common spirit that wants you to boldly say that Jesus is not the mighty God over all.

T8,Do you believe that Jesus is called the mighty God and that He is over all now?

Mike,You lean on what you call 'common sense' continually. What you seem to lack is God's wisdom. There is a difference.1 Cor 2:1And I, when I came to you, brothers,a did not come proclaiming to you the testimonyb of God with lofty speech or wisdom. 2For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3And I was with you…[Read more]

terraricca,I don't believe that one denomination is the only true denomination. Jesus has His followers and worshipers in several denominations.

t8,Your so called humor is what others call arrogant, self-exalting and hurtful to others. Maybe you were brought up with your authority thinking he was being humorous and you are just reflecting that but what kind of impression has that left you with regarding him? I am asking you to leave out what you call 'humor' because to me, it makes your…[Read more]

And then there are verses like this:Romans 9:5 And the Patriarchs; and from them The Messiah appeared in the flesh, who is The God Who is over all, to Whom are praises and blessings to the eternity of eternities, amen.

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 22 2013,05:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 22 2013,15:08)Therefore, it's like Satan being called “THE elohim of Ekron” – since there are always qualifyers in the case of Jesus and Satan?  And the definite article being used for Jesus doesn't imply HE'S God Almighty anymore than the definite article being used for Satan implies HE'S…[Read more]

t8, TerrariccaIf i am interpreting things according to my personal view, how come I have so much unity with other Christian's? Think about it. It isn't like I am telling you something new if most Christians have been believing this since the early church.For instance, it seems that:Most Christians think Jesus is Jehovah. Most Christians believe…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2013,20:10)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 20 2013,13:28)Quote These two things are in opposition to each other, Kathi.  One cannot BE the President, and also the SERVANT OF the President.  I see no scriptural reason why this obvious and logical fact would be different for Almighty God.And this here is a big road block for y…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 21 2013,15:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 22 2013,01:29)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2013,23:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2013,01:23)Quote Kathi, this “other truth” will be able to be read by us in the SCRIPTURES, right?It is all scriptural!!KathiI would say yes to what you say ,But not in the order you present it ,See,that is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2013,20:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 20 2013,13:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 20 2013,13:36)So then there is no scripture where Jesus is called simply “the theos”?Mike,Well if He is said to be the God over all, then yes 'over all' goes with it.So then, “NO”?Therefore, it's like Satan being called “THE elohim of Ekron” -…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2013,20:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2013,13:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 20 2013,12:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 18 2013,21:43)Which part do you want scriptures for?This part:He was an entity of the same kind as Himself, within Him and then born/begotten/brought forth from out of Him.Heb 1:3 the exact representation of…[Read more]

Kerwin,Perhaps a specific study on what the Bible has to say about 'roots' and particularly the roots of a lineage or nation would be good.