Quote (abe @ Feb. 27 2013,13:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 25 2013,21:45)Quote (abe @ Feb. 24 2013,17:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 17 2013,10:45)I have been meditating on this topic of Jesus being the root and offspring of David, i.e. the root and the shoot of Jesse, all week and I believe that it demonstrates how someone can be 100% God according to…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2013,16:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 28 2013,01:18)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2013,01:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2013,13:44)Hi abe,Yes, He (Jesus), as the shoot, was in the loins of Abraham in the same manner that any descendant of Abraham was. As the Root, He was not in Abraham's loins.See the geneology from Luke…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,I think you are referring to my prince/pauper story. No one needs authority to ask the Father for something. Matt 26: 51And behold, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword and struck the servantg of the high priest and cut off his ear. 52Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 27 2013,06:29)LU,Jesus Christ did not have the authority to send the Spirit until after he sacrificed his life in order to defeat God's enemies.Hi Kerwin,I agree, but I'm not sure why you said that. What were you responding to?

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2013,01:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2013,13:44)Hi abe,Yes, He (Jesus), as the shoot, was in the loins of Abraham in the same manner that any descendant of Abraham was. As the Root, He was not in Abraham's loins.See the geneology from Luke 3:23Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 26 2013,04:05)We teach that Jesus came from God.Kathi teaches that Jesus is God.John 8:42Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.Jesus is with us Kathi.We also teach that the Father is God and God made Jesus Lord.Kathi teaches t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 26 2013,19:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2013,01:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2013,17:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 24 2013,07:03)It doesn't make sense with Moses, but IT DOES make sense with Christ ……………..Why Kathi?  Why would it be OBVIOUS that one particular servant of God could not be “God over all”, but not…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Yet you try to tell us (without a shred of scriptural support, btw) that he existed as a spirit being before he was conceived as a spirit being. THIS is the claim for which I'm asking for scriptual support. No that is not what I am trying to tell you. I am saying that He existed as a spirit being before He was begotten before the ages.…[Read more]

Hi abe,Yes, He (Jesus), as the shoot, was in the loins of Abraham in the same manner that any descendant of Abraham was. As the Root, He was not in Abraham's loins.See the geneology from Luke 3:23Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, 24the son of Matthat, the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 24 2013,08:45)Mike?Quote #1 is not only lacking common sense, but also lacks a single shred of scriptural support.You, who speak frequently about the pre-existence of Christ now don't believe He existed before conception? No scriptural support you say??Bump for Mike.

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 24 2013,15:29)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 25 2013,03:45)Mike?Quote #1 is not only lacking common sense, but also lacks a single shred of scriptural support.You, who speak frequently about the pre-existence of Christ now don't believe He existed before conception? No scriptural support you say??Kathi.John 8:42 (English NIV)Jesus said…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 24 2013,15:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 25 2013,03:47)Mike,Quote #4 makes perfect sense if you understand that Jesus was not only after David, but also before him.It makes perfect sense IF….If it makes perfect common sense, why do Gene, Kerwin, et al debate this constantly with you?Oh, Gene and Kerwin are the authority on…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2013,17:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 24 2013,07:50)So, who is saying that the Son is the Father? The Second Power of YHVH is the servant of the First Power of YHVH. No one is saying that the Second Power of YHVH is also the First Power of YHVH.I believe it's only you who even speaks about a first and second power of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2013,17:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 24 2013,07:03)It doesn't make sense with Moses, but IT DOES make sense with Christ ……………..Why Kathi?  Why would it be OBVIOUS that one particular servant of God could not be “God over all”, but not just as obvious that the other servant of God could not be “God over…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2013,17:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 24 2013,07:47)Mike,Quote #4 makes perfect sense if you understand that Jesus was not only after David, but also before him.It makes perfect sense IF….If it makes perfect common sense, why do Gene, Kerwin, et al debate this constantly with you?Gene, Kerwin, et al believe that when…[Read more]

Bo, So can you agree that you are literally a great, great, great… grandson of Adam? Can you agree that you are literally a descendant of Adam?Jesus is literally a great, great, great…grandson of David through blood from Mary and through legal adoption from Joseph.Before Mary, the Son existed as the root of David and not the shoot of David.…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 24 2013,19:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 18 2013,00:45)I have been meditating on this topic of Jesus being the root and offspring of David, i.e. the root and the shoot of Jesse, all week and I believe that it demonstrates how someone can be 100% God according to nature (the Root) and 100% Man according to nature (the Shoot) as…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Feb. 24 2013,17:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 17 2013,10:45)I have been meditating on this topic of Jesus being the root and offspring of David, i.e. the root and the shoot of Jesse, all week and I believe that it demonstrates how someone can be 100% God according to nature (the Root) and 100% Man according to nature (the Shoot) as Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 24 2013,16:44)LU and all,1 Timothy 6:10King James Version (KJV)10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.andProverbs 12:12King James Version (KJV)12 The wicked desireth the net of evil men: but the root of…[Read more]

Bo, Do you see yourself as a literal son of Adam or a metaphorical son of Adam?