Yes abe, Jesus is the root and the offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star. What do you think that it means for Jesus to be the root of David?Christ is the root because why?Thanks.

Thanks Wakeup for putting up this video. We need to be able to say NO to this sort of thing even if we stand alone among men. It is going to get much worse and we need to be willing to die if it means not taking the future mark of the beast which will prohibit us from buying and selling apart from it.Rev 11The Second Beast11Then I saw another…[Read more]

ewwww Mike,you just said this to abe:Quote So can God have existed, and then at some later time CREATED one of His fingers? Or does it make more sense that the finger/spirit of God has always been a part of God?Let me insert 'Arm of God' and see if you want to keep your statement as you put it. If so, you just said that this makes sense:So can…[Read more]

I answered you Mike. I see the God who sent Jesus as the First Power of YHVH.

Bo,The root of David is also the root of Adam. God with and through His Word are the roots of Adam for it is by them that all things were created, imo.1 Cor 8:6yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.

Isaiah 37:31 NAS 30″Then this shall be the sign for you: you will eat this year what grows of itself, in the second year what springs from the same, and in the third year sow, reap, plant vineyards and eat their fruit. 31″The surviving remnant of the house of Judah will again take root downward and bear fruit upward. 32″For out of Jerusalem will…[Read more]

Isaiah 14:29 NAS29″Do not rejoice, O Philistia, all of you, Because the rod that struck you is broken; For from the serpent's root a viper will come out, And its fruit will be a flying serpent.30″Those who are most helpless will eat, And the needy will lie down in security; I will destroy your root with famine, And it will kill off your…[Read more]

Hi abe,Christ was the root as what? The source of Jesse?

Hi 4Thomas,you said:Quote There is only one origin that is the Father.If that one origin is the Eternal Father, He must have had the Son eternally within Him, otherwise He would not have been a Father. Do you agree?

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,20:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2013,21:42)Mike,A child exists before they are begotten/born. A begettal does not indicate a beginning of existence.Kathi, I mentioned before that surely God would have known how we humans would understand the words “son”, “father”, “begotten”, and “firstborn”……. and also what…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 03 2013,22:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 04 2013,08:16)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 03 2013,19:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 04 2013,01:39)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 01 2013,19:23)LU,Quote I think you are referring to my prince/pauper story.Yes.Quote No one needs authority to ask the Father for something. I was speaking of actually receiving and…[Read more]

Welcome 4Thomas,I hope that your time on HN is enriching as you dig into the Word of God and challenge fellow Bible students and receive challenge from us, and those in the skeptics section as well. I look forward to hearing more of your views. Also, I agree with your stand with the unborn and developing unity in the Body of Christ! God bless…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Mar. 03 2013,23:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 25 2013,23:44)Hi abe,Yes, He (Jesus), as the shoot, was in the loins of Abraham in the same manner that any descendant of Abraham was. As the Root, He was not in Abraham's loins.See the geneology from Luke 3:23Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as…[Read more]

Hi Bo,Yes, Jesus is a descendant as a great, great…grandson, not like Solomon who is a direct son. Jesus is the promised descendant of David, promised by YHVH to redeem Israel and known by the Jews as the Son of David.The Son of David is the 'shoot' AND the 'root' of Jesse and David. He is the root by being the second power of YHVH, called the…[Read more]

Mike,The First Power of YHVH sent the Second Power of YHVH.

Isaiah 11:1-10 NASQuote 1Then a shoot will spring from the stem of Jesse, And a branch from his roots will bear fruit.2The Spirit of the LORD will rest on Him, The spirit of wisdom and understanding, The spirit of counsel and strength, The spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD.3And He will delight in the fear of the LORD, And He will not…[Read more]

Isaiah 5:24 NAS24Therefore, as a tongue of fire consumes stubble And dry grass collapses into the flame, So their root will become like rot and their blossom blow away as dust; For they have rejected the law of the LORD of hosts And despised the word of the Holy One of Israel. KJV24Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame…[Read more]

Proverbs 12:12 NAS 12The wicked man desires the booty of evil men, But the root of the righteous yields . KJV12The wicked desireth the net of evil : but the root of the righteous yieldeth .

Proverbs 12:3 NAS3A man will not be established by wickedness, But the root of the righteous will not be moved. KJV3A man shall not be established by wickedness: but the root of the righteous shall not be moved.