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Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2013,23:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2013,20:21)I'm sure you have trouble seeing that the root is also the shoot, too.No, I understand that Jesus was both before and after David…………. because that lesson is clearly taught in scripture.So if I can see that, why do you suppose you CAN'T see that Paul was speaking…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Comics, cartoons, jokes and funny stories in the forum Chatroom 13 years, 2 months ago
Good one Keith…poor horse

Lightenup replied to the topic Comics, cartoons, jokes and funny stories in the forum Chatroom 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2013,22:55)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx-nfvIV6dkthis is one that seems nice to meYou like this??You say it is nice to you, yet you denounce it's truth. See the video at 3:19-3:24.

Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 2 months ago
terraricca,I understand that the one that Abram saw in the vision who identified Himself as the LORD, gave Abram a message. That doesn't mean that the messenger wasn't YHVH but was only quoting YHVH. The Word of the LORD that was seen in the vision was actually called YHVH because the Son and the Father are both identified as YHVH. This is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 2 months ago
abe,I read something in early church history that false teaching about Christ was going around and John wrote his gospel to correct this and emphasize the divinity of Christ.Jesus is the root (invisible and divine) AND the shoot (visible offspring from the roots-plural, of Jesse). Jesus, according to His divinity is as invisible as a root and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic In the Beginning in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2013,18:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 08 2013,16:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2013,16:45)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 07 2013,22:16)And here is a third item where Mike has done double talk:He just quoted this in his post above this:Quote Footnote #2 says:The third parallel verb is חוֹלָלְתִּי (kholalti), “I was given b…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (abe @ Mar. 09 2013,12:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,09:16)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2013,03:12)Quote (abe @ Mar. 09 2013,18:22)Why did God say the word was in the beginning?Hi Abe, here's why… Ho Logos = Spirit“And the “Spirit” of God moved upon the face of the waters.” (Gen 1:2)“the words…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (abe @ Mar. 09 2013,02:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 07 2013,18:58)Quote (abe @ Mar. 06 2013,23:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2013,17:44)Quote (abe @ Mar. 06 2013,15:41)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2013,12:28)abe,In this verse do you see one God with another God? Or do you see one God with Himself?John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2013,03:12)Quote (abe @ Mar. 09 2013,18:22)Why did God say the word was in the beginning?Hi Abe, here's why… Ho Logos = Spirit“And the “Spirit” of God moved upon the face of the waters.” (Gen 1:2)“the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit” (John 6:63)God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 09 2013,01:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,01:46)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 08 2013,04:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 08 2013,10:55)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,23:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 08 2013,09:06)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,06:29)LU,Quote I do not see Jesus as the remnant because He never stopped serving God but the remnant…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic In the Beginning in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2013,16:45)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 07 2013,22:16)And here is a third item where Mike has done double talk:He just quoted this in his post above this:Quote Footnote #2 says:The third parallel verb is חוֹלָלְתִּי (kholalti), “I was given birth.” Some (e.g., KJV, NAB, NASB, NRSV) translate it “brought forth” – not in th…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 08 2013,16:32)http://bible.cc/2_corinthians/11-31.htm2 Corinthians 11:31The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ–He who is blessed throughout the Ages, knows that I am speaking the truth.The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying.I agree with Paul. It is the Father, and I am…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 08 2013,16:20)Okay after that sermon, I have a question for you.Regarding YHWH, is HE ALONE the Most High God?YesNoDon't know.Yes.Now look at this verse and tell me if echad is one singular or compound?1 Chronicles 17:21 And who is like your people (singular) Israel, the one (echad) nation on earth whom God went to redeem to be…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 08 2013,15:46)Kathi, it makes perfect sense in English. God bless.If you prefer compromised translations! Why would someone prefer the mistranslation over the accurate translation unless they had a personal doctrine that was better suited to the mistranslation? Truth stands on its own, when grammar, tenses and words are changed,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 08 2013,06:22)Quote (2besee @ Mar. 08 2013,15:51)Kerwin, if you don't mind me asking, How long have you been studying scripture for? The reason I ask is because…. I have not read the OT from beginning to end, though I have the NT. It appears that you have, maybe?2beesee,I have been looking into these things for around 2…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 08 2013,04:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 08 2013,10:55)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,23:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 08 2013,09:06)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,06:29)LU,Quote I do not see Jesus as the remnant because He never stopped serving God but the remnant apparently had in that verse since it say 'shall again take root…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 2 months ago
Ok, while you think of another question, answer this:Does a sentence require a subject AND a verb in New Zealand?Quote 2. Christ according to the flesh who is over all. God be blessed to the ages. Amen.This second part does not have a verb. The word 'be' is not in the Greek and the word 'blessed' is an adjective, not a verb. You struck out with…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 2 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,23:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 08 2013,09:06)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,06:29)LU,Quote I do not see Jesus as the remnant because He never stopped serving God but the remnant apparently had in that verse since it say 'shall again take root downwards…'I am speaking of a type and Jesus is the remnant that gives root to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 2 months ago
abe,Again, who specifically is the 'He' in your question?
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 2 months ago
More for you terraricca,Read and learn that the Word of the LORD came in a VISION, i.e. something to be seen:Gen 15:1 After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.2And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward…[Read more]
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