Here are a few examples where the Son is called 'God.'Heb 18But about the Son he says,“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.9You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;therefore God, your God, has set you above your companionsby anointing you with the oil of joy.”Acts 20:…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 19 2013,17:18)KathyQuote terraricca,Who is the 'I' in this passage:Isaiah 631Who is this coming from Edom,the “I” his God but the one that comes fulfilling the plan his Christ ,AND CHRIST CAME INTO HIS FATHER NAME ,GOT IT Isa 61:1 The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to preach good…[Read more]

Daniel,You are welcome! You are right to proof the texts from the early church fathers that are put up here. Some are cut and pasted out of context and seem to say something that is not really being said in the full context. Thanks for your comments.

Hi Kerwin,I found that some words for 'root' can also be translated as 'shoot' but not in Isa 11. The 'roots' are the support of the stump, not a branch coming from the stump. Likewise,the 'branch' coming from the stump is not the 'roots' of the stump. Those are two different plant parts. One as the foundation (the roots) and one as the offspring…[Read more]

Bo,When you capitalize all 4 letters in LORD, that generally refers to YHVH. I think that you mean 'Lord,' right?If so, then as the 'Shoot/offspring of David' He was speaking as a man who was made lower than even the angels, so naturally, the Father would be His Lord and God. But in the NT, the titles 'Lord' and 'God' are used for both the Father…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2013,19:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 18 2013,21:59)Mike,I am glad that you can see that I make a point. The point that I made destroys the foundation of the argument that Origen was building so I see no need to bother with the conclusions that he built on top of a foundation made of sand.“Destroys the foundation of the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 19 2013,17:05)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 20 2013,05:02)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 19 2013,01:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2013,17:52)This 'article theology' argument falls flat on its back for two reasons:1. It is inconsistent since there are two other verses in John 1 alone that have the word 'God' in them but NO ARTICLE and they refer to…[Read more]

So, I learned something about 'the Adam' tonight in my Hebrew class. 'the Adam' refers to a specific person that bears the image of God…in other words 'a specific follower' of God. Without the 'the,' adam refers to the believers in general. The word 'adam' is not a word for unbelieving man in general or a specific man if he is not a believer and…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 19 2013,16:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2013,21:02)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 19 2013,01:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2013,17:52)This 'article theology' argument falls flat on its back for two reasons:1. It is inconsistent since there are two other verses in John 1 alone that have the word 'God' in them but NO ARTICLE and they refer…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Mar. 20 2013,22:11)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 20 2013,16:13)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 20 2013,13:56)Hi Ed,I believe in an Eternal *Almighty Father* which demands that their is a Eternal Son of God.This is what scripture says.Hebrews 5:5 In the same way, Christ did not take on himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him, “You…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 19 2013,18:56)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2013,10:16)Hi Daniel,I ask merely for clarification (on my part) of your understanding of God.  God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed,I believe in an Eternal *Almighty Father* which demands that their is a Eternal Son of God.This is Eternal generation and…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 19 2013,07:38)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2013,15:35)To all,Isaiah 11:10 (King James Version)10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.KJV states “a root” not “the root” in Isaiah 28:16LU and all,Jesus is called a…[Read more]

Thanks t8 for the explanation. There is no lag in time loading HN for me. However, I had clicked on the fb icon and it took me to a fb login, which I did and later clicked again on the fb icon but I just noticed that HN is not listed as one of my 'likes' so it didn't work for me for some reason.

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2013,02:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 08 2013,18:46)Do you see that the Word of the LORD came to Abraham in a VISION and also brought Abraham forth abroad and talked to Abraham? Also, notice that Abraham called the Word of the LORD, “LORD God?”You are completely missing the point of the New Testament Kathi. It is the revelation of…[Read more]

terraricca,Who is the 'I' in this passage:Isaiah 631Who is this coming from Edom,from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson?Who is this, robed in splendor,striding forward in the greatness of his strength?“It is I, proclaiming victory,mighty to save.”2Why are your garments red,like those of one treading the winepress?3“I have trodden the winep…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 19 2013,01:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2013,17:52)This 'article theology' argument falls flat on its back for two reasons:1. It is inconsistent since there are two other verses in John 1 alone that have the word 'God' in them but NO ARTICLE and they refer to God who is unseen.2. The article is not there in order to indicate that…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 19 2013,01:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2013,17:26)Hi abe,Jesus is the Root and the Shoot/seed (offspring).Oh yeah, every time you say that you win the argument………………not.t8,Does that truth threaten your understanding or something?Instead of going to the trouble of just insulting me and exposing your weak character,…[Read more]

Hi Bo,You only see Jesus as the 'Shoot' and only speak of Him as the 'Shoot/offspring' of David/Jesse. You do not know Him as the Root of Jesse. That is why you are perplexed with what I say. As the Root of Jesse, He is part of the root 'system', which I believe is YHVH who is our God-YHVH who is one. YHVH is both God of gods and Lord of lords.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2013,20:56)The italicized words below are things said about “the Word” in John 1.  The scriptures listed in parenthesis identify some of the places in scripture where those same exact things are said about Jesus.1.  And the Word was a god:  (Is 9:6, Heb 1:8-9, etc.)2.  He was with God in the beginning:  (John 17:5)3.  …[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2013,02:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 12 2013,21:59)Common experience tells us that wisdom comes forth from within a person and in that sense, wisdom is born. So, whenever you read in scripture that wisdom has come forth in some way, metaphorically it was born.I disagree.  Wisdom can be displayed by many people, but it…[Read more]