Mike,

You asked:

Kathi, do you REALLY believe that “their belly is their belly” is the the correct meaning?  REALLY?  Come on, now.

No, I believe that their god is their belly and their belly is their god.

Mike,

You said:

 the point is that EVERYONE knew that Jesus was referring to Yahweh as both his own God and heavenly Father and our God and heavenly Father.

They knew it after He mentioned it for sure.

For example…in this passage Jesus kept talking about “my Father” this and “My Father” that, referring to God and the Pharisees basically…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You said:

 Unfortunately, one of us is apparently oblivious to the FACT that the Son OF God cannot very well BE the very God that he is the Son OF – and therefore, if the son of God in question is a god at all, he must NECESSARILY be a DIFFERENT god.

The Son of God can very well be a member of a unity that consists of a Father and a Son.…[Read more]

Mike,

You asked: Do they work, Kathi?

Yes that works for that verse. I gotta go do some work. Nice chatting.

Mike, I think that Jesus made known to his followers what his Father’s name is by claiming that Yahweh was his father, like I said.

Do you understand that the one that Jesus refers to as his own father when talking to his followers, is Yahweh?

If so, how do you know?

Jesus’ teaching was all about the God in heaven who was the God of Abraham,…[Read more]

Mike,

You said: Yes, exactly?

Let’s not pretend that I haven’t posted those verses many times as the foundation of my understanding. The problem is not that I don’t use words right out of the Bible translation, it is that one of us believes that Jesus is the literal and only Son of God who is one with his Father as the Head over all creation.

Mike,

You asked:

Btw, I had asked you quite a while ago to DEFINE the word “god” in Phil 3:19.

In Phil 3:19 god =belly or physical appetite for food.

Mike,

You said:

 And no, “el” is not “one of God’s literal names”.  El means god, and god is a title, not a literal personal name.

It is often used as a name for Yahweh. It also can be used as a title.

Mike,

You asked:

Really?  In what NT scripture can I read this literal name of God as Jesus was making it known to his followers?

Whenever Jesus referred to Yahweh as his father, he identifies his father’s name to his followers. For instance, when he was 12 years old and stayed behind from the caravan and was found teaching in the temple, Jesus…[Read more]

Mike,

Paul would give the same answer.

Mike,

You asked:  Why not just teach your understanding using terminology that IS in the Bible?

You mean like this:

Deut 10:17 For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.

Rev 17:14 These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb…[Read more]

Mike,

You said:

Yes, John calls Jesus the only begotten Son of God in John 3:16.

Very good. I call Jesus the only begotten Son of God too. Therefore all other sons of God are not begotten in the manner in which Jesus was. Agree?

Yes, I could call Jesus my God and Savior, but I don’t.

Whose God and Savior is He besides Peter’s?

 A god is an en…

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Mike,

You asked:

Kathi, do YOU think the word “name” in John 17:26 refers to God’s literal name?

Yes.

I already answered the second question in that post, btw.

Mike,

“Math quiz”

#1. c

#2. none of the above, there is one God and one Lord.

Mike,

You said:

That isn’t “clarification”, Kathi… it’s a complete re-write of what the verse actually teaches.

I’m not rewriting a verse, I’m summing up several Biblical concepts.

Berean,

Specifically, what is the real problem?

I can quote a Bible translation all day long on here but when people will  reply as if the scripture does not say what I understand it to say,  then I have to use other words to clarify how I believe it does. Like a Bible commentator uses other words to explain the text, so do I. If I were to use t…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

Thanks for your question? Please specify which terms that I use that, according to you, do not convey Biblical concepts.

Thanks, LU

Actually, Peter did the merging of the titles into the same person…twice, not me. He also calls Jesus our Lord and Savior in the same chapter with the very same Greek structure. This is undeniable.

2 Peter 1:1…To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:

2 Peter 1:11and…[Read more]

Good words Proclaimer:

You said:

Further, if Jesus is CALLED “The Lord, then he is the Lord right.

HE is called the Word of God, then he is the Word of God.

Similarly, he is called Jesus, so he is Jesus.

Simple stuff.

I might add if Jesus is CALLED “OUR GOD AND SAVIOR” then he is our God and Savior, right?

Mike, you have only answered my questions with questions.

Please clearly answer my questions with a yes or no.

Mike, I’ve been answering a lot of questions for you but you do not answer my questions. Is Jesus the only begotten Son of God in John 3:16?

Also, Mike can you call Jesus your God and Savior?

No more answers from me till you answer t…[Read more]