Quote (t8 @ Mar. 24 2013,23:01)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 25 2013,17:47)Ignatius in other writings calls the Son, the eternal Word. Do you believe that the Son was the eternal Word, t8?Kathi, I am not sure what sense he was saying this because I would have to see the context. But for now, ask yourself, “do you have eternal life?”.Quote Chapter…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 24 2013,23:00)No I didn't miss that.But I saw the pattern and you did not.Most High God + the Father, and of Jesus Christ, His only-begotten Son + the Churchanswers to:Jesus Christ, + our God and Saviour; + the ChurchAnd all the other mentions follow the pattern but do not include the Church, i.e., God and Jesus.Sure it does…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 24 2013,23:09)Kathi and Mike,When Jesus said about Judas, “one of you is devil”, was he saying:1) That Judas was the Devil (Satan).2) That Judas was a devil (excluding Satan)3) That Judas had the characteristics or nature of the Devil4) Another explanationWhat is your choice?t8,I assume that you are referring to John 6:70Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 24 2013,22:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 25 2013,16:55)Ignatius was a disciple of the writer of John 1:1 wrote this:The Epistle of Ignatius to the RomansShorter and Longer VersionsIgnatius, who is also called Theophorus, to the Church which has obtained mercy, through the majesty of the Most High Father, and Jesus Christ, His…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 24 2013,22:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 25 2013,16:55)Ignatius, who is also called Theophorus, to the Church which has obtained mercy, through the majesty of the Most High God the Father, and of Jesus Christ, His only-begotten Son; the Church which is sanctified and enlightened by the will of God, who formed all things that are…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 24 2013,19:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2013,18:37)Also, I think that Kerwin is thinking that, as Jesus is the Branch…those He gives life to will grow out of this Branch and that would make the Branch a type of foundation or 'root' for them but in that case, the 'root' would not be called 'the root of Jesse' but the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 24 2013,21:04)To all ……> Kerwin is right , all branches come from roots, and all roots come from a Seed, Jesse is a Seed of Abraham and that seed of Jesse Produced Roots Many in fact of which King David is one, and Davids seed produced many roots through his prodgeny and those Roots bore up Jesus of Nazerath a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 24 2013,19:41)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 25 2013,02:58)Kerwin,you said:Quote Second, Jesse is the genealogical root of Jesse as without Jesse there is no Jesse.Jesse is the genealogical root of himself??? Did you mean Jesus?LU,Jesse is the house of Jesse.  It is a way of speech.  For example:Exodus 4:22King James Version (…[Read more]

Mike,you asked:Quote Do you agree that John 1:1 speaks of TWO gods, one of whom was with the other? YES or NO?Yes and they are one YHVH eternal unity together with their SpiritQuote Do you agree that the theos in part b is “the uncreated cause of all things”? YES or NO?Both theos are together the uncreated cause of all things.

Ok, t8, you are welcome. Quote As you have already agreed to, “It is also saying that adam without the article refers to mankind in general”, likewise, theos without the article can refer to Godkind in general.Actually, I don't think that the Greek word theos is used for godkind. That would be the Greek word theiotes:Strongs #2305theiotés:…[Read more]

Mike,I realize your point. Thanks for clarifying.Also, I think that Kerwin is thinking that, as Jesus is the Branch…those He gives life to will grow out of this Branch and that would make the Branch a type of foundation or 'root' for them but in that case, the 'root' would not be called 'the root of Jesse' but the 'root' of the church.…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2013,12:53)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 22 2013,00:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2013,18:02)t8,The Hebrew word ha-adam has the article 'ha' and refers to one person no matter what their proper name is. If the proper name is meant 'Adam' there is no 'ha' with it. That is what the article is saying. It is also saying that adam without…[Read more]

Give him a break Mike, he didn't say that he wasn't going to discuss it. He needs to think about it all first. That is a good thing!

Mike,I believe that having two words in the nominative case in one clause is very significant. The second word did not need to be in the nominative case because there already is a subject of the clause, but it is. You ought to study this in other verses. For instance, I found this one today:Mark 15:39NET Bible (©2006)Now when the centurion, who…[Read more]

Ok 2besee, thanks.

jb2u…cont'd:Here are things that Jesus says about Himself, or does, or will do, because God is His very OWN FATHER. As you will see, being the actual SON OF GOD allows HIM to do GOD THINGS. You will see that the emphasis of Jesus' response to the Jews was NOT about what He can't do because He is just a Son but how much He CAN DO BECAUSE HE IS…[Read more]

Jb2u…cont'dQuote <>English Standard VersionThe Healing at the Pool on the Sabbath1After this there was a feast of the Jews, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.2Now there is in Jerusalem by the Sheep Gate a pool, in Aramaica called Bethesda,b which has five roofed colonnades. 3In these lay a multitude of invalids—blind, lame, and paralyzed.c 5One m…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ Mar. 16 2013,09:40)Lightenup…I watched the video and I have to say that I disagree.Jesus made it clear that he was not equal with the father!!First, in the verses that this preacher cited, he is wrong by saying in John 5:19 that Jesus did not refute their suggestion that he was saying that he was equal with the father.John 5:19…[Read more]

Kerwin,you said:Quote Second, Jesse is the genealogical root of Jesse as without Jesse there is no Jesse.Jesse is the genealogical root of himself??? Did you mean Jesus?

Kerwin,you said:Quote First, the KJV state “a root” not “the root”.The article 'the' with 'root' IS in the Greek in the NT reference of Isa 11. You can see that here:http://interlinearbible.org/romans/15-12.htmNew American Standard Bible (©1995)Again Isaiah says, “THERE SHALL COME THE ROOT OF JESSE, AND HE WHO ARISES TO RULE OVER THE GENTILES, IN…[Read more]