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Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 1 month ago
Hi Bo, I hope you are ok!
Lightenup replied to the topic Comics, cartoons, jokes and funny stories in the forum Chatroom 13 years, 1 month ago
Ok, so go to the movies this weekend. The Harrison Ford movie that I am in, “42, The Jackie Robinson Story,” came out today. Here is a song from it. When you watch the movie, you will be told what denomination God is according to Branch Rickey, (played by Mr. Harrison Ford). Here are the lyrics to the song:Sister Wynona Carr – The Ball Game So…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (t8 @ April 07 2013,21:13)Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2013,16:01)We know that Judas wasn't there in the beginning like the Word was. Also…We know that Judas was only a man, not a heavenly pre-existent being, like satan was. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to realize that just because Judas is a devil, he is not a literal devil. He did not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (t8 @ April 07 2013,20:56)Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2013,13:06)BTW, I don't see anything in Barnes, Clarke's, or Gill's commentary that would be in opposition to devil-like. Why are you making such a big deal out of a description that you already agreed to?Because you deny that the Word is God-like, God-kind, like God. I show how it is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (t8 @ April 07 2013,20:38)Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2013,12:45)They don't say devil-like. Do you disagree that Judas was devil-like?You missed the point haven't you?If Jesus says that Judas was a devil, and we know that he was not a literal devil, but was devil like, then you can plainly see how something can be likened to something by…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
kerwin,you said to Mike,Quote Jesse is Jesse's offspring as in stump of Jesse's offspring. Jesus is the branch of Jesse's offspring. He is a branch among Jesse's offspring. A branch that is fruitful, which is to say a root.David is a branch among Jesse's children and also a root for he sired children for the entire group of Jesse'…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2013,20:36)Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2013,22:26)Mike,Jesse is Jesse's offspring as in stump of Jesse's offspring. Jesus is the branch of Jesse's offspring. He is a branch among Jesse's offspring. A branch that is fruitful, which is to say a root.David is a branch among Jesse's children and also a root for he si…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (abe @ April 07 2013,17:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2013,17:51)Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2013,12:32)Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2013,12:12)To all,Isaiah 53:10King James Version (KJV)10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 1 month ago
Mike,Is it not correct to say that the dog is a dog? or the tree is also a tree? or, the God is also a God? Too much is being made of the 'article' or lack thereof. A God is also the only begotten God. See what I mean?Like I said, John 1 is about God with God…
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2013,19:32)Mike, LU, and all;Who or what is “the stump of Jesse”?Hi Kerwin,The stump of Jesse would include Jesse and his descendants up until Yeshua from what I can tell.
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (t8 @ April 04 2013,19:44)Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2013,15:13)I have been saying the same thing in different words, t8 but you laugh. The fact is that there is more than one Root of Jesse. Why would you think that the other Root would not be the Father since He made all through another Root? Or who do you think the other root/s…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (t8 @ April 04 2013,19:40)Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2013,15:13)I have been saying the same thing in different words, t8 but you laugh. The fact is that there is more than one Root of Jesse. Why would you think that the other Root would not be the Father since He made all through another Root? Or who do you think the other root/s is/are?Yes…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2013,19:26)Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2013,13:14)……….realize that there is another Root because the 'Roots' of Jesse is a plural word. I believe this refers to the Father and the Son who are both involved in the creation of Jesse.Isaiah 11:1A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
Mike,you asked:Quote And what do you make of this passage, Kathi?Judges 21 The angel of the Lord went up from Gilgal to Bokim and said, “I brought you up out of Egypt and led you into the land I swore to give to your ancestors. I said, ‘I will never break my covenant with you, 2 and you shall not make a covenant with the people of this land, but…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
jb2u,I believe you did not answer this or maybe I missed it. Please answer this:Can you prove that Jesus is not the only begotten God the Son? Can you prove that Jesus is not claiming to be God the Son? I am not asking you to prove that Jesus isn't God the Father.
Lightenup replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2013,18:53)Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2013,12:49)Can you admit that the Shema statement alone as originally written, does not give you enough information to decide if YHVH is one person or one set?What? Kathi, I thought you believed the Father and Son were two completely different Almighty God beings, who worked…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
Quote (jb2u @ April 04 2013,19:35)Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2013,05:49)you asked me:Quote I could ask you the same. Where does it say GOD is Jesus and His Father together?Deut 10:17For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.The NT clarifies that for…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
jb2u,you said:Quote I base that on the fact that He WANTS us to know Him. He created us to be with Him, and the day will come when He will get that fellowship!!Our fellowship is with the Father and the Son and Holy Spirit.2 Cor 13:14May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.1…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 1 month ago
jb2u,Thanks once again for your input. You said:Quote The Shema gives me plenty of evidence that God is one. I understand that it does not give it to you. I also agree that God is one. This is a plural oneness as most Christians agree. Let's look at some commentaries:Deut 6:4Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is oneBarnes on Deut 6:4Quote This…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 1 month ago
Now, I think that the reader would be interested in how those three commentators that YOU listed to support your view, do not support your view, not only in John 1:1c as proven in my last post, but John 17:3…here goes, t8…you might not want to face this either:John 17:3And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus…[Read more]
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