Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2013,19:32)Mike, LU, and all;Who or what is “the stump of Jesse”?Hi Kerwin,The stump of Jesse would include Jesse and his descendants up until Yeshua from what I can tell.

Quote (t8 @ April 04 2013,19:44)Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2013,15:13)I have been saying the same thing in different words, t8 but you laugh. The fact is that there is more than one Root of Jesse. Why would you think that the other Root would not be the Father since He made all through another Root? Or who do you think the other root/s…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 04 2013,19:40)Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2013,15:13)I have been saying the same thing in different words, t8 but you laugh. The fact is that there is more than one Root of Jesse. Why would you think that the other Root would not be the Father since He made all through another Root? Or who do you think the other root/s is/are?Yes…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2013,19:26)Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2013,13:14)……….realize that there is another Root because the 'Roots' of Jesse is a plural word. I believe this refers to the Father and the Son who are both involved in the creation of Jesse.Isaiah 11:1A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch…[Read more]

Mike,you asked:Quote And what do you make of this passage, Kathi?Judges 21 The angel of the Lord went up from Gilgal to Bokim and said, “I brought you up out of Egypt and led you into the land I swore to give to your ancestors. I said, ‘I will never break my covenant with you, 2 and you shall not make a covenant with the people of this land, but…[Read more]

jb2u,I believe you did not answer this or maybe I missed it. Please answer this:Can you prove that Jesus is not the only begotten God the Son? Can you prove that Jesus is not claiming to be God the Son? I am not asking you to prove that Jesus isn't God the Father.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2013,18:53)Quote (Lightenup @ April 04 2013,12:49)Can you admit that the Shema statement alone as originally written, does not give you enough information to decide if YHVH is one person or one set?What?  Kathi, I thought you believed the Father and Son were two completely different Almighty God beings, who worked…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ April 04 2013,19:35)Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2013,05:49)you asked me:Quote I could ask you the same. Where does it say GOD is Jesus and His Father together?Deut 10:17For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.The NT clarifies that for…[Read more]

jb2u,you said:Quote I base that on the fact that He WANTS us to know Him. He created us to be with Him, and the day will come when He will get that fellowship!!Our fellowship is with the Father and the Son and Holy Spirit.2 Cor 13:14May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.1…[Read more]

jb2u,Thanks once again for your input. You said:Quote The Shema gives me plenty of evidence that God is one. I understand that it does not give it to you. I also agree that God is one. This is a plural oneness as most Christians agree. Let's look at some commentaries:Deut 6:4Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is oneBarnes on Deut 6:4Quote This…[Read more]

Now, I think that the reader would be interested in how those three commentators that YOU listed to support your view, do not support your view, not only in John 1:1c as proven in my last post, but John 17:3…here goes, t8…you might not want to face this either:John 17:3And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 04 2013,17:30)Barnes' Notes on the BibleIs a devil – Has the spirit, the envy, the malice, and the treasonable designs of a devil. The word “devil” here is used in the sense of an enemy, or one hostile to him.Clarke's Commentary on the BibleHave not I chosen you twelve – Have I not, in an especial manner, called you to believe in…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 04 2013,17:36)And why do the translators say “a devil” if it was meant as an adjective as you say?Vincent's Word StudiesA devil (διάβολος)See on Matthew 4:1. The word is an adjective, meaning slanderous, but is almost invariably used in the New Testament as a noun, and with the definite article. The article is wanting only in 1…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 04 2013,17:09)Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2013,09:23)t8,Quote Great, you then deny that he is the only true God.I have said that He is not the only true God the Father, He is however the only true Begotten God the Son and the word 'God' can be applied to the 'God unity' in general or to each member depending on context.See how…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 04 2013,17:22)Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2013,09:28)Judas was devil-like but not a devil. The word was an adjective in that case…a describing word. However, theos in John 1:c is NOT an adjective and you want to replace a noun with an adjective. You cannot compare the two statements because of this. Sorry!Don't be sorry for me…[Read more]

Medical Definitions for RednecksBarium – What the undertaker does to 'em once the doctors are through with 'em.Benign – What a child be after they be eight.Cauterize – To have gotten noticed by a woman.Cyst – To give someone in need a helpin' hand.Dilate – It sure beats dyin' early.Impotent – Significant and distinguished.Node – To have been…[Read more]

Quote So, if the entire being of God Almighty is NOT a creation, but has always existed, then it likewise stands to reason that all parts OF that eternally existing being have also existed from eternity, right?So you say Mike, but you deny the eternal existence when it is the Word of God, the Wisdom of God, the Arm of God…

The Word of God existed eternally terarricca. It did not have to be created, just brought forth.

Quote (t8 @ April 04 2013,02:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 29 2013,16:21)I guess I'm missing the connection that says Jesus IS Jehovah.Yeah, I keep missing them too and still haven't seen one.I wonder if Kathi thinks why he was called Jesus. What is wrong with YHWH if that is his real name.I have shown you but the wind has taken the seed from rocky…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2013,21:32)All throughout the prophets, Kathi.  Many times, after God let Israel be beaten down for her sins, He used similar language when referring to His coming vengeance against the nations that He let beat Israel down.Read Joel 3 for one such time.  (Verse 13 even has the metaphoric “grape” language.)I asked you w…[Read more]