Quote (david @ May 06 2013,16:49)Quote (Lightenup @ May 07 2013,05:37)Quote (david @ May 06 2013,01:12)Quote Also please tell me whats stopping you from believeing Jesus is the eternal Son, the eternal expressed image that is expressed/radiated from the Father, who is indeed The Almightly Father  There are about 700 things.  I do see the 300 t…[Read more]

David,you said:Quote Well, I think it's pointless discussing a scripture that has proskyneo in it and could be translated in a number of ways.  It proves nothing, except that that translation team wanted to show Jesus being worshipped.Is it against the will of Jehovah for another god to be given proskuneó??

Mike,Is it against the will of Jehovah to give obeisance to another god? Yes or no?

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Quote (david @ May 06 2013,00:38)Quote (Lightenup @ May 05 2013,03:18)Quote (david @ May 03 2013,23:24)These are interesting points:God alone is the creator. (Yet Jesus was involved in creation)God alone is saviour. (Yet, Jesus is called saviour)The father is the “only true God.”  (Yet, Jesus is called god) When you put enough if these together…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 06 2013,01:12)Quote Also please tell me whats stopping you from believeing Jesus is the eternal Son, the eternal expressed image that is expressed/radiated from the Father, who is indeed The Almightly Father  There are about 700 things.  I do see the 300 things that make some believe in the trinity.  But I also see the 700 th…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 06 2013,00:18)Quote (Lightenup @ May 05 2013,03:04)Quote (david @ May 03 2013,23:19)The problem with saying someone worshipped Jesus, is the word proskyneo.  It doesn't necessarily mean “worship.”  Example: when killing jesus, they spit upon Jesus, mocking him, they “worshipped” him according to the KJV.  They were NOT wo…[Read more]

Whammmo…and there it is, you just have to pull the rope, ha. Yep!

Hi abe,yes, as the 'shoot.'

Quote (abe @ May 04 2013,20:03)Quote (Lightenup @ May 04 2013,16:00)How many saviors can you find that are saviors of our sin?? Do you think that might be what Jehovah means by stating that He is our only Savior?Hi LU,2Tim.1:8   Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord or of me (Paul) His prisoner, but join with me in suffering…[Read more]

But you are wrong, Bo, I worship one God above all else, I just realize that the one God, Jehovah, is both the God of gods AND the Lord of lords. You seem to think that Jehovah is only the God of gods. In fact you deny that Jehovah is Jesus, the Lord of lords. This is where you are outside of the will of God the Father, imo.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2013,21:41)Quote (Lightenup @ May 04 2013,10:04)David, I notice that when you want to show that prokyneo doesn't necessarily mean worship you use the example of the mock worship. When those that were crucifying Jesus were bowing to Him, they were worshipping Him albeit in a mocking way.How about this one, Kathi:John 938…[Read more]

Mike,Isn't eternal salvation the ultimate salvation? Is Jehovah the only Savior of only a lessor salvation and Jesus the savior of the ultimate salvation? THINK.

How many saviors can you find that are saviors of our sin?? Do you think that might be what Jehovah means by stating that He is our only Savior?

Bo, Yes we will be judged according to how we responded to the Father's will. I don't believe denying that He has an only begotten Son and also denying the death and resurrection of that only begotten Son is responding in an acceptable manner to the will of the Father though!Philippians 29Because of this, God has also greatly exalted him and he…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 03 2013,23:24)These are interesting points:God alone is the creator. (Yet Jesus was involved in creation)God alone is saviour. (Yet, Jesus is called saviour)The father is the “only true God.”  (Yet, Jesus is called god) When you put enough if these together in a string, it does seem like evidence. Here is another one: God alone…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 03 2013,23:19)The problem with saying someone worshipped Jesus, is the word proskyneo.  It doesn't necessarily mean “worship.”  Example: when killing jesus, they spit upon Jesus, mocking him, they “worshipped” him according to the KJV.  They were NOT worshipping him, but BOWING DOWN to him, in a mocking way.  Many bibles und…[Read more]

Bo,In 2 Tim 4:11 it clearly says that Christ Jesus is to judge the living and the dead. The way He may do it is by us letting us watch ourselves deny Him and His words sometime during our life. Our words are recorded in heaven, btw. In that manner, it is not He that has to make a decision as to whether or not we denied Him but our past words and…[Read more]

Ok jb2u here is your question:You believe that Jesus is not Jehovah God but he is another god. True or false?

Great post Daniel!