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Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Jb,Please tell me what word describes the Son's inherent nature as the Root of Jesse. Thanks!
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and david only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Quote I should just ask: if Jehovah gave the name Jehovah to Jesus, why, when asking who Jesus was, did everyone above answer: “the son” or “the son of god,” rather than say “Jehovah”?He is called 'the Lord' quite frequently. The word “Lord” is used for the word Jehovah as well as man.
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and david only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Quote (david @ May 14 2013,21:46)For me, asking if jesus is also Jehovah, seems very similar to asking: “Is the son also the father”.As my post made clear, Jesus was recognized as the “son” (of God) by a wide variety of persons. He was known as the “son of God,” by those around him, and by those who accused him.Similarly, 1000 times in the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and david only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Oh, and I appreciate all the time that post took but I am not challenging the fact that the Father is not the Son. I totally agree.
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and david only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Quote I see no real evidence that Jehovah (the Father) is called the son. Well, David, perhaps I have not made myself clear but I agree that Jehovah the Father is not called the Son, only Jesus is the Son of God. I am saying that Jehovah the Father gave his name to His Son…Do you know any fathers and sons that have the same name as each other.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Comics, cartoons, jokes and funny stories in the forum Chatroom 13 years ago
This will put a great big smile on your face:

Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 13 years ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 09 2013,20:48)Quote (Lightenup @ May 08 2013,22:00)Mike,you saidQuote And I also realize that just as Jesus lives BECAUSE OF the Father, we can live because of him. Just as the Father has eternal life in Him, so He has GRANTED the Son to also have eternal life in him. I learned these things from Jesus himself, Kathi.Did i…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Quote The disciples did NOT commonly and boldly do miraculous things and speak boldly in “the name of another god.”!!!!I know that the disciples did not commonly and boldly do miraculous things and speak boldly in “the name of another god” because Jesus is YHVH in some manner. However you do not teach that because you believe that Jesus is not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Quote 1) I apologize for the “wording.” I admit that I do not really know your views entirely!! I believe that you are a very honest person that wants to believe the truth. Now, when I see you mention a “Godhead”, it really does not seem different to me than a “trinity concept.” As in, just another way to explain what exactly the trinity is. I see…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years ago
t8,Where have I EVER stated that there are two (or more) God the Fathers??Truly you ought to stop slandering me. Also WHERE have you ever defeated me with scripture where I haven't comeback with a legitimate scriptural or reasonable challenge? I can't think of one time.Sooooo…now, hot shot t8, you have 3 questions to answer, the two in this post…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Yes, Jesus is an 'offspring of David' as a descendant. David is a Great, Great, Great…Grandfather of Jesus.
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and david only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Quote Hi LU, I don't need proof of the above as much as I need explanations and discussions on each of these points.I am happy to discuss these with you.
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and david only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Quote (david @ May 11 2013,01:05)Quote You can go to http://www.peshitta.org and check out the forum over there which defends this.Looked at the forum. People both defend it and attack it. It's sort of like the trinity over here. I'm not sure there is anywhere on that site that clearly explains the proof. Much like this site, there are people ar…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and david only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
David, these are just some of the reasons that I believe there is Jehovah the Son:Jesus says that the Father has given Jesus His (the Father's) name in John 17. I believe the Word of God (Jesus) was called Jehovah at times.The Father's name is Jehovah.There are things done by Jehovah in the future that don't seem to speak of the Father but rather…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years ago
That is correct but Jesus tells us in Revelations that He was both the Root and Offspring of David.
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
My question to you jb, is regarding this passage:Quote Deut 18:15“The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brothers—it is to him you shall listen— 16just as you desired of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God or see thi…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Please don't make this discussion about the 'triune' God or the 'trinity doctrine.' I believe that I have explained to you that I have yet to understand and accept the idea that the Holy Spirit is a 'person.' I better understand the Holy Spirit as the omnipresence of the Father and Son which originates from their inner person. I believe that the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and david only in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Have you “won” yet…lol. You only win if we both win, David.
Don't worry, you won't get tiled like in the hot seat when you don't answer a question. But if you don't answer a question here, you better look out 'cause I just might put the question down in the 'hot seat' and then get you tiled, ha.you said:Quote Besides the lack of scriptures…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Comics, cartoons, jokes and funny stories in the forum Chatroom 13 years ago
Very funny…Aaron Wilburn.
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years ago
Quote Q: Are you part of the 'us' that Paul is talking about here? Yes!Question for you:Do you believe Jehovah is both God and Lord?
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