t8,Where have I EVER stated that there are two (or more) God the Fathers??Truly you ought to stop slandering me. Also WHERE have you ever defeated me with scripture where I haven't comeback with a legitimate scriptural or reasonable challenge? I can't think of one time.Sooooo…now, hot shot t8, you have 3 questions to answer, the two in this post…[Read more]

Yes, Jesus is an 'offspring of David' as a descendant. David is a Great, Great, Great…Grandfather of Jesus.

Quote Hi LU, I don't need proof of the above as much as I need explanations and discussions on each of these points.I am happy to discuss these with you.

Quote (david @ May 11 2013,01:05)Quote You can go to http://www.peshitta.org and check out the forum over there which defends this.Looked at the forum.  People both defend it and attack it.  It's sort of like the trinity over here. I'm not sure there is anywhere on that site that clearly explains the proof.  Much like this site, there are people ar…[Read more]

David, these are just some of the reasons that I believe there is Jehovah the Son:Jesus says that the Father has given Jesus His (the Father's) name in John 17. I believe the Word of God (Jesus) was called Jehovah at times.The Father's name is Jehovah.There are things done by Jehovah in the future that don't seem to speak of the Father but rather…[Read more]

That is correct but Jesus tells us in Revelations that He was both the Root and Offspring of David.

My question to you jb, is regarding this passage:Quote Deut 18:15“The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brothers—it is to him you shall listen— 16just as you desired of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God or see thi…[Read more]

Please don't make this discussion about the 'triune' God or the 'trinity doctrine.' I believe that I have explained to you that I have yet to understand and accept the idea that the Holy Spirit is a 'person.' I better understand the Holy Spirit as the omnipresence of the Father and Son which originates from their inner person. I believe that the…[Read more]

Have you “won” yet…lol. You only win if we both win, David. Don't worry, you won't get tiled like in the hot seat when you don't answer a question. But if you don't answer a question here, you better look out 'cause I just might put the question down in the 'hot seat' and then get you tiled, ha.you said:Quote Besides the lack of scriptures…[Read more]

Very funny…Aaron Wilburn.

Quote Q: Are you part of the 'us' that Paul is talking about here? Yes!Question for you:Do you believe Jehovah is both God and Lord?

Mike,you saidQuote And I also realize that just as Jesus lives BECAUSE OF the Father, we can live because of him. Just as the Father has eternal life in Him, so He has GRANTED the Son to also have eternal life in him. I learned these things from Jesus himself, Kathi.Did it say that He granted the Son to have 'eternal' life or just 'life?' The…[Read more]

Mike,you saidQuote I realize that Jesus WAS with the Father in the beginning. He was created as the FIRST of God's works, remember? I remember that you are trying to force that idea but even the NET translators do not agree that He was created who prefer that word 'created' in Prov 8:22…remember??

Quote (david @ May 08 2013,17:26)Hi LU,Sure.  I'm not super fond of the discussions where if you don't answer questions, you get a tile.  What actually would we be discussing?  Proskyneo?What you said about the son being called Jehovah?David,I suggested we discuss things in the discussion area, not the hot seat. The hot seat is where you get a ti…[Read more]

Bo,Jesus is both the Root AND the Shoot. Jesus was the Root in the beginning as the Word of God. When the Root also became the Shoot, well that is when He became flesh.

David, I was wondering if you would be interested in having a thread in the discussion area where we can discuss these things one on one. It would be easier to keep an uninterrupted flow. I am not interested in a formal debate, just a continuous conversation that comes and goes as it may. What do you think? I would like to address your recent…[Read more]

Abe,Jesus' flesh died but His spirit continued to live. Do you believe that your spirit will die with your body when it is your time to die or will your spirit continue to live elsewhere?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 06 2013,22:03)Quote (Lightenup @ May 06 2013,20:53)The eternal son is what I want you to disprove…………….Shouldn't you first PROVE there IS such a thing as an “eternal son”?   Doesn't the word “son”, in and of itself, imply a BEGINNING?  It should.  And if it doesn't in your mind, because your mind is polluted wi…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 06 2013,22:00)Quote (Lightenup @ May 06 2013,20:38)Mike,Is it against the will of Jehovah to give obeisance to another god? Yes or no?This is nothing but more tweaking, Kathi.  Did men bow to angels in the OT?  Did they bow to angels they later identified as gods?  YES to both.What you are trying (UNSUCCESSFULLY) to do is…[Read more]

I agree with Hezekiah just fine. The Jehovah God of Israel is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords. You have disagreements with the many times that Jesus is called theos and connected with making all things in heaven and earth in the scriptures.Bo, do scriptures call Jesus a theos? Does scriptures say that all things were made by Jesus? John…[Read more]