Quote So tell me….was Jesus a man while on Earth??Jesus was God, in the beginning by nature according to the Spirit (and scripture) and came to be also man according to the flesh after Mary conceived Him. He was both the Root and the Shoot while on earth. Not the way you think about roots though.Btw, jb, when asked who are your roots, do you…[Read more]

jb,I really appreciate your search but I do not agree with your conclusions. You add your bias to scriptures as we all do and we need to beware of this. If Jesus was only a man, we are lost in our sins. A principal established by Jehovah in the OT is that a righteous man can not die for the sins of even one other man let alone all other men. Also,…[Read more]

Hi Bo,Where does Jesus “DISAGREE” that He is the Son of David? I believe you are confused about this.

Quote And it is disingenuous of you to say that I am a Polytheist for the reason you gave.You are a polytheist because you do spiritual actions in the name of another theos. You pray in the name of another theos who is not Jehovah. You bow down to another theos in an act of worship who is not Jehovah. You believe in another theos for eternal life…[Read more]

That's fine to have the discussion moved here. I am not a polytheist, you are. You believe in many theos and you have them ranked. I believe in one Jehovah God who is both God of gods and Lord of lords.

jb2u,Before you go any further, I believe this passage from Paul rebukes what you are teaching:Clearly Paul is debunking your teaching about Jesus being merely a human being. He is also speaking very sternly about those that teach a different gospel, see the words in red:1Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and G…[Read more]

Kerwin,you said:Quote Jesus of Nazareth is that human.Clearly Paul is debunking your teaching about Jesus being merely a human being. He is also speaking very sternly about those that teach a different gospel, see the words in red:1Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the d…[Read more]

Kerwin,Quote I agree with these words but not the claim that the same person, who is intrinsically royal can also be intrinsically commoner at the same time.In the analogy, in the right kingdom, the person is inherently a man of royalty. In a completely different kingdom, the same person is not a person who is inherently a man of royalty in that…[Read more]

David,The thing about Gen 15 is that the one that Abram sees in the vision never says anything about 'the word of Jehovah says…' He just starts talking to him and throughout this vision, the one that Abram is seeing, says that He is Jehovah. In this passage below, I have put the words from the one in the vision that Abram saw in red and Abram's…[Read more]

Kerwin,Yes you can have royal blood in you but live the life of a commoner if you choose. Jesus, the only begotten theos can't stop being the only begotten theos and then be something different instead. He had to become something different while still being the only begotten theos. You can't stop being what you are inherently, the only begotten…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 19 2013,13:01)Quote (Lightenup @ May 18 2013,23:58)Mike,Quote I'll await her scripture that says such a thing.  From what I'VE read in the scriptures, the Lord God Almighty SENT His Son into the earth where that Son died at the hands of men. Acts 20:28Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the…[Read more]

Kerwin,Yes, Kerwin, Jesus was fully human but He was also fully God as the only begotten God while He was fully human. Before He became flesh, His nature was the exact nature as the Father. Remember the analogy of the prince and the pauper. The prince was 100% royalty first then he became a pauper by choice yet remained 100 % royalty.

Quote (Lightenup @ May 17 2013,00:44)Quote And out of this stump, a root is produced which is Jesus. This root will flourish;In grade school you probably saw a picture of a plant with roots that are underground and from the roots the stem sprouts and from the stem, then we have the branches and from the branches we get fruit. We don't get more…[Read more]

Mike,The word MYRA is used of Jesus quite a lot, not just once or twice. I don't know where it is used of Isaiah or Phillip. Anyway, I am going by what a native Aramaic speaker that owns Peshitta.org and is making an Aramaic interlinear says. I take his word over yours since you don't really know anything much about the Aramaic language. He says…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 19 2013,13:03)Quote (Lightenup @ May 19 2013,00:00)Mike,Do you believe that the theos of John 1:1b sent the theos of John 1:1c to earth to die at the hands of men?Yes or NoYes.Mike,Thanks for your answer.So you do believe that a mighty theos who existed before creation, died at the hands of men, right?You just don't…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 19 2013,19:33)Quote (Lightenup @ May 19 2013,19:33)Yeshua is not God is salvation. It is Jehovah is salvation.And what a fitting name for the one whom God sent into the world.The only true God and Jesus Christ whom he has sent.For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.Jesus…[Read more]

Mike,Do you believe that the theos of John 1:1b sent the theos of John 1:1c to earth to die at the hands of men?Yes or No

Mike,Quote I'll await her scripture that says such a thing. From what I'VE read in the scriptures, the Lord God Almighty SENT His Son into the earth where that Son died at the hands of men. Acts 20:28Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he…[Read more]

Quote You either are unaware of the scripture or are trying to deceive me. Which is it??I am aware of the scriptures; I am not trying to deceive you.Jesus is given the name 'Jehovah our Righteousness' and Jerusalem, which is symbolic, is identified in Him but not as Him.jb, please answer this:Who does the NT say is our righteousness?  The Father…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ May 17 2013,11:36)Quote (Lightenup @ May 17 2013,16:44)Quote And out of this stump, a root is produced which is Jesus. This root will flourish;In grade school you probably saw a picture of a plant with roots that are underground and from the roots the stem sprouts and from the stem, then we have the branches and from the branches we…[Read more]