Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2013,19:10)Quote (Lightenup @ May 26 2013,22:51)……Jesus is the same type of being as the Father……And what type is that, Kathi?  A spirit?  So what?  Lots of beings are spirits, right?Eternal type.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2013,19:09)Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2013,22:23)Is the word 'Almighty' in the original manuscripts? Yes or no?Is the word 'Father' in the original manuscripts? Yes or no?If not, then theos could refer to the only begotten theos as it seems to in John 1:1c.Kathi,Let's take a little stroll down Hebrews 9 for a…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2013,23:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 23 2013,21:57)Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2013,13:56)You agree that Christ is the mighty theos at the right hand of the Father.So, it is scripturally correct to say the Church of Christ is the Church of the theos at the right hand of the Father. Therefore the Church of the theos which He…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 25 2013,02:05)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,19:58)Also, this debate is not over just because you are threatened. The t8 doctrine test is yet to come…I'll bet the readers will be enlightened by that.Ha ha. Bring it on. Those are fighting words.  I will!!

Quote (t8 @ May 23 2013,23:07)The question was, “did you know before he mentioned it”?And I answered your question with a yes!

Quote (t8 @ May 25 2013,02:04)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,19:55)Not so fast, t8. Please note that you did not answer this question:Tell me which one/ones aren't Jehovah:JEHOVAH JIREH         (Jehovah our Provider)JEHOVAH RAPHA        (Jehovah our Healer)JEHOVAH RAAH          (Jehovah our Shepherd)JEHOVAH TSIDKENU   (Jehovah our Righteousness…[Read more]

Hi Bo,From first appearance those two seem to contradict each other. I think the NASB has a clearer translation:Prov 26 4Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him. 5Answer a fool as his folly deserves, That he not be wise in his own eyes.I believe the message is to shut the fool up by…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2013,13:15)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,00:16)Again, Jesus is Jehovah our Righteousness!! AmenSo is Israel!!  Amen.Thanks for realizing that Jesus is Jehovah Our Righteousness! Israel is named this because they are the recipients of His righteousness. There is also a place named 'Jehovah our Provider' because that was…[Read more]

Everybody,This explains what I understand pretty well. http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/WordChapter.pdf

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2013,13:13)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,00:05)Quote (t8 @ May 24 2013,20:15)Possessing or sharing in a nature doesn't make you a certain person.Nobody is saying that the Son is the Father, t8.Yeah Kathi,But WE are saying “GOD” is one person.  So Jesus sharing in a nature with “GOD” does not make him “GOD”.Mike,Because…[Read more]

jb,This is a well written document that expresses what I believe God has been teaching me when I went to Him, much like you, with a willingness to challenge the trinity doctrine. http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/WordChapter.pdf

Here you go t8…this is what I have been saying all along:http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/WordChapter.pdf

David, This is written as if it were me writing it concerning what we are discussing. http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/WordChapter.pdf

Quote (t8 @ May 24 2013,20:22)Origen considered that John wrote his gospel in Greek.“We next notice John’s use of the article in these sentences. He does not write without care in this respect, nor is he unfamiliar with the niceties of the Greek tongue. In some cases he uses the article, and in some he omits it. He adds the article to the Wor…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 24 2013,20:15)Quote (Lightenup @ May 19 2013,19:23)kerwinJesus is theos in nature just as His Father is. Heb 1:3John the Baptist was human in nature just as his father was.Possessing or sharing in a nature doesn't make you a certain person.Eve shares Adam's nature and so do we. We are not Adam, but in nature we are.Likewise Jesus…[Read more]

Also, this debate is not over just because you are threatened. The t8 doctrine test is yet to come…I'll bet the readers will be enlightened by that.

Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2013,21:50)Quote (t8 @ May 23 2013,21:17)Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2013,21:26)Btw, you need to learn about coming in the name of another…it is about authority. That verse in John 5 has nothing to do with Jesus getting named the Father's name. The verse that tells us that Jesus' name is the same as the Father's is in…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2013,23:34)Quote (Lightenup @ May 24 2013,09:32)Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2013,21:47)Quote (Lightenup @ May 24 2013,08:14)Kerwin,What if the Spirit of God gives the Son freedom to speak and rule as He sees fit in certain situations, especially after His resurrection when He had been given all authority? Then the Son is the…[Read more]

Kerwin,Do you have a corporeal body? Yes or no. Here is a definition of corporeal:cor·po·re·aladjective \kȯr-ˈpȯr-ē-əl\1: having, consisting of, or relating to a physical material body: asa : not spiritualb : not immaterial or intangible : substantial I believe that the scriptures call it 'earthly body.'For example:Col 3:5 Therefore consider th…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 23 2013,23:20)Seriously Kathi, if I had lost nearly every point that I brought up as you have, I would seriously be considering my doctrine by now. But I suspect that you do not do this because you are running on emotions and reality and truth has disappeared for you.Are you not concerned for your soul? Is your pride worth more…[Read more]