Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2013,21:14)Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2013,20:43)This is really quite simple, Mike. This verse really settles the matter. There is no way in the world that you can twist that “you” to mean the one called God in v. 9 above.Revelation 5:9 And they sang a new song, saying:“You are worthy to take the scroll    and to open its…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2013,21:16)Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2013,20:43)Now have we finally settled who did the purchasing with the blood? Yes or No? If Yes, Mike tell me who it was that did the purchasing.Yes, I believe we did, Kathi.The one who bought men FOR GOD with his blood was someone OTHER THAN “our God”.Are we in agreement?Mike,The God…[Read more]

Bo,Quote If you answer a fool as his folly deserves it would be according to his own folly because the fool is wise in his own eyes. So do you answer a fool or not?Sometimes I don't answer a fool and sometimes I do with the intent to get them to realize they are NOT wise in their own eyes so they may be humbled and hopefully be open to learning…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ May 25 2013,09:45)Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2013,18:51)Quote So tell me….was Jesus a man while on Earth??Jesus was God, in the beginning by nature according to the Spirit (and scripture) and came to be also man according to the flesh after Mary conceived Him. He was both the Root and the Shoot while on earth. Not the way you think…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 28 2013,03:13)Kathi. Jesus came in his Father's name. Q: What is his Father's name?YHWH?Did Jesus come in his own name?No, he came in his Father's name.So he didn't come in the name of his name which is YHWH according to you.See that Kathi. That is commonly called a contradiction.He came in YHWH's name and he didn't come in YHWH's…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 28 2013,03:33)The “Ye” in Yeshua is the abbreviated form of YHWH, while “Shua” is from the Hebrew word 'salvation'. Jesus means “YHWH is salvation.”Isaiah means “salvation of the Lord”. It is basically the same meaning as Yeshua.Then we have other names like Elijah, Obadiah etc. It is plain to see that all of these use the name of…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 28 2013,01:52)Quote (Lightenup @ May 28 2013,17:10)t8,Can you show me a person that has the word YHVH along with a seperate word as part of a compound name that is a man other than Jesus? You have only given examples of people with a one word name where the 'Yah' is within it?This is a must answer question, t8.Maybe I can. But I…[Read more]

Another question that will show that I am not biased but it is you who are biased to really not want YHVH to be a name for Jesus.Whose righteousness is the context talking about where the Branch is called Jehovah our Righteousness?Jeremiah 235″Behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “When I will raise up for David a righteous Branch; And He…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 27 2013,18:51)Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2013,19:17)Quote (t8 @ May 25 2013,02:04)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,19:55)Not so fast, t8. Please note that you did not answer this question:Tell me which one/ones aren't Jehovah:JEHOVAH JIREH         (Jehovah our Provider)JEHOVAH RAPHA        (Jehovah our Healer)JEHOVAH RAAH          (…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2013,19:18)Quote (Lightenup @ May 26 2013,22:59)Israel is named this because they are the recipients of His righteousness.Isn't Jesus also a recipient of Jehovah's righteousness?Quote (Lightenup @ May 26 2013,22:59)There is also a place named 'Jehovah our Provider' because that was a place where Jehovah provided the ram…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2013,19:10)Quote (Lightenup @ May 26 2013,22:51)……Jesus is the same type of being as the Father……And what type is that, Kathi?  A spirit?  So what?  Lots of beings are spirits, right?Eternal type.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2013,19:09)Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2013,22:23)Is the word 'Almighty' in the original manuscripts? Yes or no?Is the word 'Father' in the original manuscripts? Yes or no?If not, then theos could refer to the only begotten theos as it seems to in John 1:1c.Kathi,Let's take a little stroll down Hebrews 9 for a…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2013,23:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 23 2013,21:57)Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2013,13:56)You agree that Christ is the mighty theos at the right hand of the Father.So, it is scripturally correct to say the Church of Christ is the Church of the theos at the right hand of the Father. Therefore the Church of the theos which He…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 25 2013,02:05)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,19:58)Also, this debate is not over just because you are threatened. The t8 doctrine test is yet to come…I'll bet the readers will be enlightened by that.Ha ha. Bring it on. Those are fighting words.  I will!!

Quote (t8 @ May 23 2013,23:07)The question was, “did you know before he mentioned it”?And I answered your question with a yes!

Quote (t8 @ May 25 2013,02:04)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,19:55)Not so fast, t8. Please note that you did not answer this question:Tell me which one/ones aren't Jehovah:JEHOVAH JIREH         (Jehovah our Provider)JEHOVAH RAPHA        (Jehovah our Healer)JEHOVAH RAAH          (Jehovah our Shepherd)JEHOVAH TSIDKENU   (Jehovah our Righteousness…[Read more]

Hi Bo,From first appearance those two seem to contradict each other. I think the NASB has a clearer translation:Prov 26 4Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him. 5Answer a fool as his folly deserves, That he not be wise in his own eyes.I believe the message is to shut the fool up by…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2013,13:15)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,00:16)Again, Jesus is Jehovah our Righteousness!! AmenSo is Israel!!  Amen.Thanks for realizing that Jesus is Jehovah Our Righteousness! Israel is named this because they are the recipients of His righteousness. There is also a place named 'Jehovah our Provider' because that was…[Read more]

Everybody,This explains what I understand pretty well. http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/WordChapter.pdf

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2013,13:13)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,00:05)Quote (t8 @ May 24 2013,20:15)Possessing or sharing in a nature doesn't make you a certain person.Nobody is saying that the Son is the Father, t8.Yeah Kathi,But WE are saying “GOD” is one person.  So Jesus sharing in a nature with “GOD” does not make him “GOD”.Mike,Because…[Read more]