Quote The first problem is that we KNOW that not all of the Jews believed the correct thing, right? So, if the Targums were written by those Jews that believed the wrong thing, the Targums are then wrong. Wouldn't you agree? This means that you are only assuming that the Targums are correct!!Once again, I am not stating that the Targums are…[Read more]

Quote So you agree that Jesus doesn't want to save everyone right?He came to save both the Jew and the Gentile, not just the Jew and not just His disciples. His sacrifice was a willing sacrifice, I don't know why you think otherwise. Jesus did know the plan. Jesus foretold His death and resurrection. This plan was brought forth before creation.…[Read more]

Quote Jesus has the name of doing all that is righteous.Jehovah has the name of doing all that is righteous.They both have the same name.That is right Kerwin. There is a reason that Jesus has the same name as Jehovah. Jesus is Jehovah the Son, He is LORD Jesus.

He is just clarifying whose will He is allowing to ultimately lead Him.John 6:38″For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.He is not saying that He does not will to save those who are His own. Jesus' will IS to save them and that is clear in the NT.See John 17 to know just some of what Jesus' will…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2013,21:13)Quote (Lightenup @ May 31 2013,13:13)Don't pretend that you are qualified to teach Greek, Mike.My goodness, Kathi.  Stubborn much?  You can read in any interlinear that the Greek words are EXACTLY:  with the blood of his own.  The Greek words are NOT:  with the blood of himself.You can read it word for word…[Read more]

jb,you said:Quote The TARGUMS do give a sense of what the word is in John;Thank you!Quote however, John gives us an even clearer understanding!!! In John, he clearly states that the word (not Word) was in the beginning, was with God, and was God. What he did not say…was that Jesus was in the beginning, was with God, and was GOD. He clearly…[Read more]

jb,you said:Quote The Jews believe the word of God to be God's wisdom, not His Son.Can you provide your source for your statement that the Jews believe the word of God to be God's wisdom? From the source that I have, the Jews considered that there were two powers in Heaven. A Jew (non-believing) wrote a book about that found…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote I've never claimed anything different than that, Kathi. The Most High God created all things through His Holy Servant Jesus Christ, who is also a god (“mighty one”).But only ONE is the Most High God. And only ONE created all things.Did you have a son through your son's mother?If yes, do you take sole credit for having a…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Do you see the big part, Kathi? THAT is what the Greek words actually say. I never once implied that there wasn't more than one way to understand those words. In fact, in previous posts, I've discussed the part you bolded above as one of the possibilities……. didn't I?Now I'd like YOU to discuss, or at least ACKNOWLEDGE, that it…[Read more]

Quote If Jesus is “the way” and “the door” to God, Can He also be God?Jesus is the God of John 1:1c.

Quote (jb2u @ May 29 2013,17:59)Quote (Lightenup @ May 29 2013,05:20)jb,The 'root of Jesse' is talking about Isaiah 11 where FROM the ROOTS of Jesse comes a branch. Obviously the two terms are not the same here.Isaiah 11 1A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.Even so, the meaning of the word does not…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ May 29 2013,17:57)Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2013,13:57)jb,This is a well written document that expresses what I believe God has been teaching me when I went to Him, much like you, with a willingness to challenge the trinity doctrine. http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/WordChapter.pdfThe first problem that I see with this article is that…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 30 2013,06:24)Must answer question.What is Yeshua's name?Here are a few of the names and titles of Jesus: ADAMADVOCATEALMIGHTYALPHA AND OMEGAAMENAPOSTLE OF OUR PROFESSIONARM OF THE LORDAUTHOR AND FINISHER OF OUR FAITHAUTHOR OF ETERNAL SALVATIONBEGINNING OF CREATION OF GODBELOVED SONBLESSED AND ONLY POTENTATEBRANCHBREAD OF…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 30 2013,06:13)Jesus is master/lord not YHWH God.In fact it was God who made him Lord.Where did this happen in scripture when the theos of John 1:1b make the theos of John 1:1c 'Lord?'A must answer question:Did you know that Jesus was already announced as Lord on the day when He was born as a man?Luke 2:10And the angel said to them,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 30 2013,06:12)Quote (Lightenup @ May 29 2013,07:23)Here is one:Philippians 2:11Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)And every tongue shall confess that Yeshua The Messiah is THE LORD JEHOVAH to the glory of God his Father.There is no other man called Jehovah.Philippians 2:1111 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote And I don't need you to put your spin on things, Kathi. The fact that Gill, or your pastor, or the scholars you often quote think that “God the Son” is also named “Jehovah” does NOT equate to them believing in TWO Gods. They believe in “Jehovah the Father”, “Jehovah the Son”, and “Jehovah the Holy Spirit” – but they believe…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 29 2013,19:44)Quote (Lightenup @ May 28 2013,23:29) ….you still want to make the Father out to be the one who does the purchasing.You must have misunderstood something I said.  I KNOW that the Lamb and Servant OF “our God” is the one who shed his blood, Kathi.  With his blood, this Servant OF our God bought men FOR our G…[Read more]

Bo, ultimately, He did not ask to be saved from His Father's will.

Love this…thanks Paul!

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2013,22:12)Kathi,Your claim that there is an “eternal kind”, of which there are two members, is just an empty claim.Your claim that there are TWO Jehovahs, who are described all throughout scripture with SINGULAR pronouns, is also an empty claim.Your claim that we have TWO Almighty Gods is not only an empty claim, but…[Read more]