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Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 11 months ago
But Pierre, if Jesus your god?
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 12 years, 11 months ago
jb,you said:Quote As for Psalms 110You are confusing the Hebrew. There is Adoni and Adonai. Verse 5 does NOT call Jesus by YHVH or Adonai. It calls Him Adoni. The use of the “lord” is a “royal” title granted to those given authority by God, not meaning that they our God themselves. There are several instances in the Bible where men, including…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote (jb2u @ June 18 2013,10:04)Quote (Lightenup @ June 18 2013,05:50)you ask:Quote WHY would Jesus need the Holy Spirit of God if HE was God?This just would not make sense! Keep in mind that He emptied Himself of whatever was necessary to become like man.Phil 2:7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote (jb2u @ June 18 2013,10:08)Quote (Lightenup @ June 18 2013,05:54)Quote Why would the “grace of God” be “UPON” Jesus (Luke 2:40) if Jesus IS God? Again, this makes NO SENSE if Jesus IS God!Heb 2For this reason he had to be made like them, fully human in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 12 years, 11 months ago
Bo,you have completely taken something said in one context and use it to manipulate guilt on me in a completely different context. This is something the Pharisees were doing also.you said:Quote Matthew 12:7But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.You ought to read about…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 12 years, 11 months ago
Mike,Aramaic is a family of dialects and all the dialects can be said to be Aramaic. See here:Aramaic is a family of languages (traditionally referred to as “dialects”) belonging to the Semitic family, and more specifically, is a part of the Northwest Semitic subfamily, which also includes Canaanite languages such as Hebrew and Phoenician. Aramaic…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 12 years, 11 months ago
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)Acts 26:14And we all fell upon the ground, and I heard a voice, which said to me in Judean Aramaic, “Shaul, Shaul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick the goads.”John 20:16Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)Yeshua said to her, “Maryam.” And she turned and said to him in Judean Aramaic,<…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 11 months ago
No Pierre, is he yours?
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ June 18 2013,11:38)Is Christ YOUR god, Pierre?Pierre,Answer the question.
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 12 years, 11 months ago
jb,Please just answer the question:Did dirt become fully man? Yes or No
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 11 months ago
Is Christ YOUR god, Pierre?
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote 1) Jesus was made in EVERY WAY like us. I don't know about you, but I am NOT half God and half man or full God and full man. I am, however, in EVERY WAY…fully man!!Did dirt become man in every way? Please answer this, jb.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 12 years, 11 months ago
MikeQuote If these words were originally written in Aramaic, it would make little sense to add those bolded parts, IMO.The translators of the Greek manuscripts add words all the time to clarify. Also, the Aramaic language has different dialects and one dialect may have a unique way of saying something. Think about southern sayings compared to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2013,20:16)Quote (Lightenup @ June 18 2013,02:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2013,21:09)Quote (Lightenup @ June 10 2013,11:15)I don't need to force anything Mike. He who has the eyes to see, can see it.In this case, he who has vivid imagination can see it.
Jesus has the title “Jehovah is our Righteousness”, just like…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 11 months ago
Mike,Quote These Trinitarians shoot down a good 90% of the usual “Jesus is God proof texts”. I find that not only interesting, but also exhilarating. Actually they don't shoot them down if you read their notes because they usually say these other renderings are certainly possible. That doesn't seem like shooting down anything. Quote Yes, Jesus is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 12 years, 11 months ago
Without that sacrifice that Jesus made we have no salvation. Because of His death on the cross our sins are paid for and the church has been redeemed. The curse that He willingly took upon Himself is our way to freedom from that curse. What a saviour, Jesus Christ…Jesus wins BECAUSE HE WAS SHAMED DYING THE DEATH OF ONE CURSED ON THE CROSS! He…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 12 years, 11 months ago
Hi Mike,No, I am not hiding. I am just spending my time researching and with family, and then there was a festival in town for two weeks and I have two jobs. So, I have just been busy with other things.
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2013,21:09)Quote (Lightenup @ June 10 2013,11:15)I don't need to force anything Mike. He who has the eyes to see, can see it.In this case, he who has vivid imagination can see it.
Jesus has the title “Jehovah is our Righteousness”, just like Israel does. To read anything else into it is simply wishful t…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 12 years, 11 months ago
Finally, for now, you said this:Quote You go on to quote a bunch of verses calling Jesus by Lord. I have already showed that Jesus is Lord. I never denied that. I only reject the notion that Jesus is GOD.Can you admit that YHVH is Lord? Can you admit that you understand that Jesus is a theos?I noticed that you did not address this verse among…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and jb2u only in the forum Debates 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote (jb2u @ June 11 2013,08:53)Quote Once again, I am not stating that the Targums are inerrant. The Targums definitely state some of the Jews understanding of the OT. So when Jesus speaks about what the Jews knew and that 'the Jews worship what they know,' we can see from the Targums that they worshiped the 'Word of Jehovah' as Jehovah.There…[Read more]
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