Quote (jb2u @ June 20 2013,15:14)FIVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE ANSWER.You state that the Prince was 100% prince and 100% pauper. You state that “Jesus didn't empty Himself of being God, the Son.”If you insist on believing that Jesus was God, even while on Earth, then 1) WHY did He need God to do miracles or speak His words?2) WHY couldn't He just use His…[Read more]

cont'dQuote We KNOW and AGREE (I think) that the following is stated in scripture.1) YHVH is one. YHVH is both God of gods and Lord of lords2) Jesus states that the one true God is His Father. Scriptures also state that Jesus is a theos who is our Lord of lords, our ONE Lord-YHVH is our Lord of lords.3) Jesus states that the day will come when the…[Read more]

cont'd…Quote What I am doing is explaining those verses IN LIGHT OF other scripture. I am not going based on “my bias.” I am going based on what OTHER VERSES IN THE BIBLE has to say about who Jesus is and is not! That is NOT bias. That is being able to read and understand the word of God.I could say the same thing. The trinitarians could say…[Read more]

jb,Quote You act as if I am limiting God just because I take scripture for what it actually says.From what I have seen, you have told me the scriptures that I have copied and pasted are wrong. If you took scripture for what it actually says, you would have no problem finding the pre-existence of Christ and the divinity of Christ.Quote For…[Read more]

Bo,Quote If that was about Jesus how is it you do not see:His offspring are those He gives eternal life to, His church.Quote Prolong his days does not mean end his days.His days did not end…He lives now and forevermore.Quote After he has suffered does not mean after he has died and risen from deathSure it does!Gal 3:13Christ redeemed us from the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 20 2013,12:30)Quote (Lightenup @ June 20 2013,05:07)Quote (kerwin @ June 18 2013,16:44)LU,Does Jehovah sit on David's throne?Yes Kerwin, Jehovah the Son sits on David's throne according to His role as the Son of Man.LU,Your teaching confuses me as it seems you have two Gods though I believe you say you have one.   I have…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 19 2013,20:18)Quote (Lightenup @ June 20 2013,07:12)Pierre,Do you realize that an action is not an object?yes i do but no action no object ,the way i understand it ;action then out comes the object ,no action ,no object right ?Pierre,I clearly remember going through the begetting act 5 times and the 'objects' that were…[Read more]

Ahhh the spell checker…why didn't I think of that!

And he keeps it clean, Mike. So many comedians think it is funny to cuss a lot. Tim Hawkins is a rare talent!

Pierre,Do you realize that an action is not an object?

So, Pierre, was the act of begetting the first step of the creation of God, in your opinion?

Pierre, do you believe that Jesus was begotten before creation?

But Jesus was there before the creation, right Pierre?

Quote (kerwin @ June 18 2013,16:44)LU,Does Jehovah sit on David's throne?Yes Kerwin, Jehovah the Son sits on David's throne according to His role as the Son of Man.

So Pierre, there were two theos in the beginning before creation, right?

That is good Pierre, consider both. The original would be the one that was God breathed and the other one may also be God breathed. When you come to what seems to be discrepancies, then the original would be the one to go by though. The true original would give the clearest wording so studying about that language and the idioms unique to that…[Read more]

Pierre,Did your LORD Jesus who is a theos exist before creation?

Pierre, I will tell you what that is to me and to you…if you deny who He is you cannot enter the narrow gate. It has eternal implications. He is the only way through the gate. Even the demons believe that He is the Son of God, that is not enough to believe about Him. Now, is He your theos or not?

Pierre,You asked:Quote How can Jesus be my God if we both him and I have the same GodAnswer, for starters:1. You and all things in heaven and on earth were created through the theos, Jesus.2. Your salvation and eternal life depends on what the theos, Jesus, did for you and all mankind.3. This theos, Jesus, is the head of the church which you claim…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 18 2013,18:56)Quote (Lightenup @ June 17 2013,22:44)Well, we are making progress!How so?You agree that Jesus is the theos that is our righteousness.